Official Round 3 - Chinese Grand Prix - Page 4

Knowlesy · 14 Apr 2013, 08:42 (Ref:3233791)

Ah, that was a bit too close.

Hamilton with double the Mercedes podiums of TGF in four races. World class.

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Apr 2013, 08:45 (Ref:3233792)

Great race from Alonso, Button must think that 5th is a win considering the current McLaren speed. Vettel made a good attempt on Lewis but just couldn't quite make it. Very exciting.

Knowlesy · 14 Apr 2013, 08:47 (Ref:3233794)

Hopefully Pirelli bring sensible tyres next time out.

Amazing what a difference Vettel's three made with three laps less on them than Jenson. JB's tyres collapsed after just a few hot sectors.

Knowlesy · 14 Apr 2013, 08:52 (Ref:3233797)

Good day for the Aussie in the STR too. Great result.

Combined with Vergne and Webber having an accident, can't do him any harm at all.

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Apr 2013, 08:52 (Ref:3233798)

It's Bahrain next week. Surely the same tyres?

I see that from Spain there will be an extra set of tyres available for all teams in Qualifying.

Greem · 14 Apr 2013, 09:16 (Ref:3233815)

The DRS/yellow flag infringements were apparently caused by faults in the FIA telemetry system, which is new this year and has been problematic since they set up in Melbourne.

I fail to see how the drivers can be penalised if the system which is supposed to stop the use of DRS fails.

321Go · 14 Apr 2013, 09:21 (Ref:3233821)

No points for RBR from MW!!

fourWheelDrift · 14 Apr 2013, 09:22 (Ref:3233822)

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Originally Posted by Greem

The DRS/yellow flag infringements were apparently caused by faults in the FIA telemetry system, which is new this year and has been problematic since they set up in Melbourne.

I fail to see how the drivers can be penalised if the system which is supposed to stop the use of DRS fails.

Totally agree I'm sure this is why the stewards decided to investigate after the race and this is the only sensible outcome, of course they also have to fix the system so that it works correctly next time out.

321Go · 14 Apr 2013, 09:31 (Ref:3233829)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greem

The DRS/yellow flag infringements were apparently caused by faults in the FIA telemetry system, which is new this year and has been problematic since they set up in Melbourne.

I fail to see how the drivers can be penalised if the system which is supposed to stop the use of DRS fails.

The drivers/teams were told pre race they have to manually activate the DRS. No FIA system is in place so far this year. So it's upto the teams to let the driver know of the banned zone, and if the driver does use DRS in a yellow zone, or outside of the DRS zone, they will be penalised.

I would say the drivers guilty of using DRS in the yellow zone, I think they are Vettel, Raikkonen, Button, Grosjean, Webber, Bottas and Chilton, will recieve some sort of penalty.

fourWheelDrift · 14 Apr 2013, 09:35 (Ref:3233834)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 321Go

The drivers/teams were told pre race they have to manually activate the DRS. No FIA system is in place so far this year. So it's upto the teams to let the driver know of the banned zone, and if the driver does use DRS in a yellow zone, or outside of the DRS zone, they will be penalised.

I would say the drivers guilty of using DRS in the yellow zone, I think they are Vettel, Raikkonen, Button, Grosjean, Webber, Bottas and Chilton, will recieve some sort of penalty.

It used to be blocked automatically didn't it? If it isn't then there has to be a penalty.

Greem · 14 Apr 2013, 09:40 (Ref:3233837)

Oh, I must have missed that. It'll be interesting to see all the timing info now.

I'd imagine fines & grid drops will be levied. They'd be insane to muck around with the result so much.

321Go · 14 Apr 2013, 10:05 (Ref:3233857)

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Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

It used to be blocked automatically didn't it? If it isn't then there has to be a penalty.

Yes, but as Greem has mentioned, the system hasn't been working 100% so far this year and there's no auto-disable for DRS.

If I'm correct, this means a driver could use DRS anywhere on the track currently. They'd be found out I suspect, but there's no system currently disabling the DRS in non DRS zones.

And here comes the penalties. Gutierrez handed 5 place penalty for Bahrain GP for collision with Sutil. Webber handed 3 place grid penalty for Bahrain GP for collision with Vergne.

**GTRMagic** · 14 Apr 2013, 10:07 (Ref:3233858)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

No points for RBR from MW!!

And according to a couple of tweets from the circuit, Mr Webber has a 3 place grid penalty for his incident with Mr Vergne...

Makes you think of another Potsie-ism, ironically after a collision with a STR... "Well it's kids, isn't it. Kids with not enough experience, doing a good job then they truck it all up,"

321Go · 14 Apr 2013, 10:27 (Ref:3233863)

LOL GTR, I don't think MW has ever forgiven that fella for that. No such reaction today though. Below is what MW said about the incident.

Quote:

"I was regrouping and coming through the field and got to Jean-Eric. I was coming from a reasonable distance back but he knew I was there. He was really, really wide and looking like he opened the corner and was giving me the line.

But we got to the apex and he took it.
It's disappointing. He was entitled to do that, but if he'd just gone around the outside we would've both survived."

Interesting that MW says JEV knew he was there. MW would be the only one who could confirm the he and JEV made eye contact before they collided I guess. Shame for both.

Knowlesy · 14 Apr 2013, 10:37 (Ref:3233867)

Mark was miles back, he made his move too late. Almost hesitant in committing and then made his move when the gap was gone. Completely his fault I am afraid.

Unnecessary grid penalty though, as per usual.

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Apr 2013, 10:45 (Ref:3233875)

The DRS infringements should be announced soon.

Razzzor · 14 Apr 2013, 10:49 (Ref:3233876)

I thought it was kind of Vergne's fault but I didn't really look at that incident that hard. Have to rewatch it. He could definitely have given Webber the room, it's not like he was going to hold him off for an entire race.

I did find it highly amusing that Mark did it RIGHT in front of Seb, crashing into his own TR teammate while Seb nips up the inside of both of them. After all that's gone now, he goes an puts his foot in his own mouth, I bet Webber would have been so angry with himself. We were set up for a good fight between the two of them as well because Seb was a bit faster throughout the race and would have wanted past.

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Apr 2013, 10:58 (Ref:3233883)

Just come up on twitter that rumour has it that Webber has signed a five year deal with Porsche.

Knowlesy · 14 Apr 2013, 11:03 (Ref:3233889)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Just come up on twitter that rumour has it that Webber has signed a five year deal with Porsche.

That has been a strong rumour for a while now and I fully expect it to be confirmed soon tbh.

Maybe RBR will then take the chance to promote Ricciardo for the rest of the season? Although that would be a bit premature.

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Apr 2013, 11:32 (Ref:3233913)

@LeeMcKenzieF1: No action for the DRS infringements. Webber 3 place pen for 'crashing into' Vergne for Bahrain and 5 places for Gutierrez.

http://twitter.com/LeeMcKenzieF1/sta...97742829383680

321Go · 14 Apr 2013, 11:40 (Ref:3233918)

Well I'm surprised. No penalties for the 7 drivers!!

skells22 · 14 Apr 2013, 12:09 (Ref:3233934)

reason , FIA was a bit slow in putting out the call to disable the DRS by a minute which lead some drivers to be confused

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Apr 2013, 12:30 (Ref:3233944)

Sounds like quite an interesting race. I haven't seen it and so must wait and watch the BBC's extended highlights, which is never really quite the same.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Apr 2013, 13:42 (Ref:3233978)

There's some really close racing in the first 5 laps. Bad start by Kimi. Good move by the Ferraris on Hamilton.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Apr 2013, 14:23 (Ref:3234001)

That was a nice move by Alonso, on the inside of Vettel.

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