FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA PIRELLI 2017 - Grand Prix Weekend Thread

[TrapezeArtist]

Just returning to the first corner incident. Three abreast obviously didn't work. I think I heard an interview where Kimi slipped in a subtle implication of blame to Bottas who "hit him". Yet Valteri was well over the kerb on the inside and still they made contact. Perhaps Kimi was concentrating too much on giving Max room and forgot to accord Valteri the same courtesy.

[Razzzor]

Yeah Lewis' fitness and out of breath race was odd. Even if it wasn't so physical and a lot of it was mental concentration and anxiety, shouldn't he be beyond mental exhaustion? One of the best in the world should be able handle that sort of mental pressure. It did look like Vettel was pushing the car harder than Lewis was, so should have been a lot more out of breath. Odd.

[F1Guy]

Hamilton can't win can he? Do anything remotely outside of F1, hang out with celebrities, take a selfie, etc., he's get's called a so and so. Hell he can't even win driver of the day after out foxing, and out driving he's nearest competitor after what he said was one of the hardest win's he's had to work for. Now he's fitness is an issue apparently??

What next, pick on the way he looks, or he's skin colour??

Oh wait...

[F1Guy]

Team radio from Spain.

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/20..._in_Spain.html

[bauble]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

Hamilton can't win can he? Do anything remotely outside of F1, hang out with celebrities, take a selfie, etc., he's get's called a so and so. Hell he can't even win driver of the day after out foxing, and out driving he's nearest competitor after what he said was one of the hardest win's he's had to work for. Now he's fitness is an issue apparently??

What next, pick on the way he looks, or he's skin colour??

Oh wait...

Well he does look a right dick in those silly sunglasses.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by Razzzor

Yeah Lewis' fitness and out of breath race was odd. Even if it wasn't so physical and a lot of it was mental concentration and anxiety, shouldn't he be beyond mental exhaustion? One of the best in the world should be able handle that sort of mental pressure. It did look like Vettel was pushing the car harder than Lewis was, so should have been a lot more out of breath. Odd.

There might be an explanation to Hamilton's fitness issue, he has gone for some extra weight saving by not using a drinks bottle.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/129544

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

There might be an explanation to Hamilton's fitness issue, he has gone for some extra weight saving by not using a drinks bottle.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/129544

As if to prove how dumb-downed journalists have become, he/she claims that not having a drinks bottle at the beginning of the race saves a kilo. As most of the liquid would remain within the confines of the car, whether that was retained in the driver's body or sweat that is absorbed into their racing clothes, throughout the race, the saving is minimal in that respect.

Yes, not having a fluids bottle is a weight saving but it's not just at the start of the race.

[chillibowl]

Doesn't seem like risking the effects of dehydration is worth the marginal time savings...seems more desperate then anything else imo.

[S griffin]

Indeed no wonder he's out of breath. I suspect a Keke style cool helmet is out of the question too?

As for the first corner incident, strange how Bottas backed out of that move with Lewis, he was enough inside to have a go

[jimclark]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

Yes, not having a fluids bottle is a weight saving but it's not just at the start of the race.

'Much too much logic sir! ('scares me 'cause it reminds me of myself )
I caught that also before reading your post.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

Doesn't seem like risking the effects of dehydration is worth the marginal time savings...seems more desperate then anything else imo.

That's the kind of decisions that get made without the knowledge that a personal trainer has.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

Doesn't seem like risking the effects of dehydration is worth the marginal time savings...seems more desperate then anything else imo.

It doesn't make sense to me. Lack of hydration later in the race seems to be a larger risk to ultimate performance.

But the next time I watch a race, I will be sitting on my comfortable couch at home and I will drink a big glass of water and toast Lewis and his unquenchable thirst!

Richard

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by bauble

Well he does look a right dick in those silly sunglasses.

You can't say that! Someone will think you're being racist. If there is one thing worse than being racist it's wrongly accusing another of being racist.

I voted for someone else because, well, I wanted to, but also because I fancied rewarding something nice that happened. I was being flippant and didn't think it would matter too much.

I can see why people would vote for someone other than Lewis. His drive won the race, but others drove as well, or better, for lower places. I can see people not being wowed by the overtake, it wasn't as good as Vettels on Bottas. Although both were DRS aided. Have we forgertten that F1 is rubbish. He got into that position because of the team getting him there and a bit of luck. Factor in that he won a race in a Mercedes and, well, it is easy to see that being a bit underwhelming.

Still, it was a very good drive from Hamilton and not voting for him doesn't stop that or that he netted 25 points, which is what matters to the silly sunglasses wearing F1 legend.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by Adam43

You can't say that! Someone will think you're being racist. If there is one thing worse than being racist it's wrongly accusing another of being racist.

I voted for someone else because, well, I wanted to, but also because I fancied rewarding something nice that happened. I was being flippant and didn't think it would matter too much.

I can see why people would vote for someone other than Lewis. His drive won the race, but others drove as well, or better, for lower places. I can see people not being wowed by the overtake, it wasn't as good as Vettels on Bottas. Although both were DRS aided. Have we forgertten that F1 is rubbish. He got into that position because of the team getting him there and a bit of luck. Factor in that he won a race in a Mercedes and, well, it is easy to see that being a bit underwhelming.




Still, it was a very good drive from Hamilton and not voting for him doesn't stop that or that he netted 25 points, which is what matters to the silly sunglasses wearing F1 legend.

I did not intend to imply that wearing 'silly sunglasses' lessened the quality of his driving, or that it had anything whatsoever to do with his skin colour, simply that when standing next to Vettel on the podium ... well .... he looked ......... silly.
In my eyes at least, no doubt many people, fans and non-fans of the man think he looks 'cool'.
After all we all have different perspectives on may things.

[jimclark]

The times they are a-changin'.....

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

That's the kind of decisions that get made without the knowledge that a personal trainer has.

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

It doesn't make sense to me. Lack of hydration later in the race seems to be a larger risk to ultimate performance.

since posting that i have actually been going back and forth on what i think about the 'danger level' of said choice.

medically, i imagine he has been well advised what the effects are on his physiology, short and long term.

if its a risk he is willing to take then that would hardly make him the first athlete to jeopardize personal health in order to achieve sporting success.

or does it add a level of risk to the other drivers?

extreme diets for F1 drivers is nothing new so maybe this is just a case of nothing to see here?


have read some pretty funny suggestions on the interwebs about what else Ham can do to shed some extra weight.

donate a kidney, shave the hair plugs, get a lobotomy.

[RWill2073]

Lobotomy? Don't you have to have one to remove it?



Crap. Am I racist now?

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by RWill2073

Lobotomy? Don't you have to have one to remove it?



Crap. Am I racist now?

Maybe. But since he didn't win driver of the day on am Internet forum, I'm blaming you. How do you live with yourself?

[RWill2073]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Maybe. But since he didn't win driver of the day on am Internet forum, I'm blaming you. How do you live with yourself?

It's hard, man. Should I start posting my every move on social media so you can see for yourself?

[Adam43]

Do you have a dog?

Back to the racing. I did think the cars loooked pretty good out there. Not so much the cars themselves as the attitude on track. You could see differences between cars and even different laps for the same driver. I can't be sure if it is better than last year as I haven't compared, but it did strike me this year.

I also liked Vettel's double dummy on Bottas. That was fun.

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by RWill2073

Lobotomy? Don't you have to have one to remove it?



Crap. Am I racist now?

No. Just a bit silly.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

No. Just a bit silly.

Ah! But does he have he sunglasses to prove it?