WTCC FIA WTCR 2018: WTCC / TCR Merger? - Page 4

Mark0994 · 7 Dec 2017, 10:26 (Ref:3785622)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

FIA will FIA.

F*** It All (up)

+1

BobJones · 7 Dec 2017, 10:31 (Ref:3785624)

Thoughts on qualifying system?

Seems a bit convoluted to me, but then again, could be worse, anyone remember the STCC system a couple of seasons back...?!

redshoes · 7 Dec 2017, 12:37 (Ref:3785637)

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Originally Posted by BobJones

Thoughts on qualifying system?

Saturday's race a straight-forward 30 mins qualifying. No problem with that as that's normal for most series.

Sunday's 2 races use the old WTCC format - Q1 > Q2 > top 5 shootout, with the first race of the day with reversed top ten from Q2. I've never liked that idea. if you make a mistake or have a problem in qualifying and finish outside the top ten, then that's pretty much your entire weekend ruined.

Kampie · 7 Dec 2017, 12:41 (Ref:3785638)

Sorry to barge in with this, but I made a little entry list.

JAS (Honda)
- Micheliz
- Monteiro
Sebastien Loeb Racing (Peugeot)
- Benani
- Filipi
ROAL (Hyundai)
- Coronel (link)
- TBC
BRC Racing Team (Hyundai)
- Tarquini
- Menu
Zengo (Honda/Seat/Kia)
- Ficza
- Nagy/Szabo
Comtoyou Racing (Audi)
- Comini
- Vervisch
Leopard (VW)
- Vernay
- TBC
M1RA (Honda)
- Tassi
- Colsiago
Craft Bamboo (Seat)
- Oriola
- Nash
Westcoast (VW)
- Morbidelli
- TBC
Munich (Seat)
- Huff
- TBC
Campos (Seat)
- TBC
- TBC
Polestar Cyan (Volvo)
- Bjork
- Girolami
Boutsen Ginion Racing (Honda)
- Coronel (link)
- TBC
GE-Force (Alfa Romeo)
- Borkovic
- Kajaia
DG Sport (Opel)
- Corthals
- TBC
RC Motorsport (Lada)
- Erlacher
- TBC

Maybe I missed some brand switches, but I think I'm not far of. I hope some teams will switch towards Ford or Renault or other not listed brands.

Shoot

Fechna · 7 Dec 2017, 14:06 (Ref:3785649)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...-tcr-car-2018/

F-ing yeah! Volvo is coming back... and maybe as a *works* team... this is EPIC...

Kampie · 7 Dec 2017, 14:37 (Ref:3785654)

Sorry to barge in with this, but I made a little entry list.

JAS (Honda)
- Micheliz
- Monteiro
Sebastien Loeb Racing (Peugeot)
- Benani
- Filipi
ROAL (Hyundai)
- Coronel *
- TBC
BRC Racing Team (Hyundai)
- Tarquini
- Menu
Zengo (Honda/Seat/Kia)
- Ficza
- Nagy/Szabo
Comtoyou Racing (Audi)
- Comini
- Vervisch
Leopard (VW)
- Vernay
- TBC
M1RA (Honda)
- Tassi
- Colsiago
Craft Bamboo (Seat)
- Oriola
- Nash
Westcoast (VW)
- Morbidelli
- TBC
Munich (Seat)
- Huff
- TBC
Campos (Seat)
- TBC
- TBC
Polestar Cyan (Volvo)
- Bjork
- Muller
Boutsen Ginion Racing (Honda)
- Coronel *
- TBC
GE-Force (Alfa Romeo)
- Borkovic
- Kajaia
DG Sport (Opel)
- Corthals
- TBC
RC Motorsport (Lada)
- Erlacher
- TBC

Maybe I missed some brand switches, but I think I'm not far of. I hope some teams will switch towards Ford or Renault or other not listed brands.

(* Coronel tested a Hyundai, but has a DHL-wrapped Honda @ Boutsen)

Shoot

Fechna · 7 Dec 2017, 14:44 (Ref:3785658)

Nah.. nice list, but teams, cars and drivers so far were ever shifting in TCR. Last year I made a similar list for 2017 and I think I only got Vernay at Leopard and Oriola at Bamboo right... out of 15+ predicted entrys.

Sodemo · 7 Dec 2017, 18:16 (Ref:3785691)

Amazing. Can Volvo run a 5-cylinder?

touring fan01 · 7 Dec 2017, 18:40 (Ref:3785696)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

Amazing. Can Volvo run a 5-cylinder?

no

Tarzaan · 7 Dec 2017, 18:43 (Ref:3785698)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kampie

Sorry to barge in with this, but I made a little entry list.

JAS (Honda)
- Micheliz
- Monteiro
Sebastien Loeb Racing (Peugeot)
- Benani
- Filipi
ROAL (Hyundai)
- Coronel *
- TBC
BRC Racing Team (Hyundai)
- Tarquini
- Menu
Zengo (Honda/Seat/Kia)
- Ficza
- Nagy/Szabo
Comtoyou Racing (Audi)
- Comini
- Vervisch
Leopard (VW)
- Vernay
- TBC
M1RA (Honda)
- Tassi
- Colsiago
Craft Bamboo (Seat)
- Oriola
- Nash
Westcoast (VW)
- Morbidelli
- TBC
Munich (Seat)
- Huff
- TBC
Campos (Seat)
- TBC
- TBC
Polestar Cyan (Volvo)
- Bjork
- Muller
Boutsen Ginion Racing (Honda)
- Coronel *
- TBC
GE-Force (Alfa Romeo)
- Borkovic
- Kajaia
DG Sport (Opel)
- Corthals
- TBC
RC Motorsport (Lada)
- Erlacher
- TBC

Maybe I missed some brand switches, but I think I'm not far of. I hope some teams will switch towards Ford or Renault or other not listed brands.

(* Coronel tested a Hyundai, but has a DHL-wrapped Honda @ Boutsen)

Shoot

Zengő Zoltán said they would like to run Audis if they get enough money.

Bári Dávid (M1RA) wrote today it's absolutely not sure they can enter in the WTCR, because it requires much more money and resource, so there is a high chance to stay in Europe, maybe in one of the local championship.

As I know Lada doesn"t have a TCR legal car just like Volvo (I know, they start to develope one).

GM10 · 7 Dec 2017, 18:46 (Ref:3785699)

Munnich-Honda, more probably.

Nash said weeks ago that he wants to come back in the BTCC.

Racing Harz · 7 Dec 2017, 19:25 (Ref:3785703)

Comini likely switching to the subaru. He said the Audi is past, Subaru is future

Kampie · 7 Dec 2017, 19:52 (Ref:3785709)

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Originally Posted by Tarzaan

Bári Dávid (M1RA) wrote today it's absolutely not sure they can enter in the WTCR, because it requires much more money and resource, so there is a high chance to stay in Europe, maybe in one of the local championship.

Would be a shame to not have Tassi in this championship.

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As I know Lada doesn"t have a TCR legal car just like Volvo (I know, they start to develope one).

Afaik was there allready a Lada TCR on the loose in TCR Russia

Andrew Abbott · 7 Dec 2017, 22:00 (Ref:3785725)

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Originally Posted by Kampie

Afaik was there allready a Lada TCR on the loose in TCR Russia

They do indeed, the photo in this article is in fact of a TCR LADA in action in Russia:

https://www.touringcars.net/2017/10/...sta-tcr-europe

Mies7337 · 8 Dec 2017, 13:30 (Ref:3785823)

Coronel has said he has four options for next year, and confirmed that ROAL is one of them. Boutsen-Gineon will likely be one of the others as well. And maybe Münnich could be one, as there were roumours he would join them anyway in 2017, and I think BRC racing could be an option, as he tested for them.

And if MIRA will me on the grid, it'll probably be with Michelisz, right? I can't imagine him driving for an other team than his own.

RC Motorsport is a French team, right? Then I think that a Peugeot is more likely than the Lada.

If Comini is going to drive a Subaru, than there will need to be a Subaru team on the grid. But who will take that chance, as it has not shown any potential so far.

BobJones · 8 Dec 2017, 13:53 (Ref:3785829)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sodemo

Amazing. Can Volvo run a 5-cylinder?

Why when Volvo doesn't make a 5-cylinder?

BobJones · 8 Dec 2017, 13:54 (Ref:3785833)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mies7337

If Comini is going to drive a Subaru, than there will need to be a Subaru team on the grid. But who will take that chance, as it has not shown any potential so far.

Absolutely, why buy a Subaru when you can buy a Hyundai?

BobJones · 8 Dec 2017, 13:58 (Ref:3785835)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySpeed

They do indeed, the photo in this article is in fact of a TCR LADA in action in Russia:

https://www.touringcars.net/2017/10/...sta-tcr-europe

Developed with Oreca - https://www.oreca.com/en/news_oreca/...ady-to-battle/

Kampie · 8 Dec 2017, 14:18 (Ref:3785841)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mies7337

Coronel has said he has four options for next year, and confirmed that ROAL is one of them. Boutsen-Gineon will likely be one of the others as well. And maybe Münnich could be one, as there were roumours he would join them anyway in 2017, and I think BRC racing could be an option, as he tested for them.

I think it was a ROAL test with a BRC machine.

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And if MIRA will me on the grid, it'll probably be with Michelisz, right? I can't imagine him driving for an other team than his own.

I can imagine, like Kurt Busch did many years in Nascar

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RC Motorsport is a French team, right? Then I think that a Peugeot is more likely than the Lada.

True, but I wanted a Lada team in my list. And besides some say RC is an Italian team.

Sodemo · 8 Dec 2017, 14:52 (Ref:3785843)

I'd like to know more about the Volvo. What car would they be likely to use?

I guess its either going to be the S60 or V40.

Bramzel · 8 Dec 2017, 15:04 (Ref:3785844)

26 car limit & increased entry fee explained
Manufacturer involvement to be expected

To be honest I don't mind either. The car limit and entry fee will enforce a certain amount of professionalism, and GT3 has shown manufacturer involvement doesn't mean less of a show.

Racing Harz · 8 Dec 2017, 15:54 (Ref:3785859)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mies7337

If Comini is going to drive a Subaru, than there will need to be a Subaru team on the grid. But who will take that chance, as it has not shown any potential so far.

TopRun

They have developt the car, Comini drive the car for them in Italy and they postet it on FB, that the WTCR is a very nice series and they are likely drive there

S griffin · 8 Dec 2017, 16:14 (Ref:3785866)

I think all the right ingredients are there for a great first season, especially if Volvo are involved

Matt K · 8 Dec 2017, 16:25 (Ref:3785873)

Honestly I didn't expect Volvo to engage in TCR as I thought that for Volvo electric cars is the future and they won't be really interested in continuing with touring cars, especially after what they did to Supercars programme in Oz. But this is great that they're going to remain.

Fechna · 8 Dec 2017, 16:36 (Ref:3785875)

Personnally, i think the more manufacturer involvement, the better. And if a true privateer steals the show, even better... Sports are about the narrative, the storys. And david vs goliath is the ultimate underdog story we're secretly all longing for. Thats the main reason DTM sucks so hard... its goliath vs. goliath vs. goliath. Its like watching Real vs. Barca. Every weekend. For the rest of your life.

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