ALMS Round 4: Salt Lake City - Page 4

AU N EGL · 13 May 2008, 11:11 (Ref:2200965)

Road America is a low downforce track do to the high speeds. Mosport is a high downforce track with high speed corners. Two differnt set ups for the two different tracks.

mattcat · 13 May 2008, 11:45 (Ref:2201008)

Looking at the perimiter layout of this course I get the feeling that unless both cars crash or all four drivers take ill and cannot race, this is going to be an all Audi show.

JHamilton · 13 May 2008, 17:05 (Ref:2201359)

We were saying the same thing this time last year too. Who knows?

HORNDAWG · 13 May 2008, 17:40 (Ref:2201375)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattcat

Looking at the perimiter layout of this course I get the feeling that unless both cars crash or all four drivers take ill and cannot race, this is going to be an all Audi show.

Oh, Lord forbid, a P-1 should have an advantage!

L.P.

Chaos81 · 13 May 2008, 21:52 (Ref:2201596)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

GA's races are timed like ALMS races

Not only that, but the race is actually on Saturday and is being shown on tape delay. They wouldn't go over the 3 hour limit no matter what.

I'm really looking forward to this race for some reason. Maybe because it's the first 2:45 race of the season.

minimangler · 13 May 2008, 22:24 (Ref:2201620)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Oh, Lord forbid, a P-1 should have an advantage!

L.P.

(gangster african american voice): "I hear dat!"

End.

prototype · 14 May 2008, 05:18 (Ref:2201775)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos81

Not only that, but the race is actually on Saturday and is being shown on tape delay. They wouldn't go over the 3 hour limit no matter what.

I'm really looking forward to this race for some reason. Maybe because it's the first 2:45 race of the season.

Its a Sunday race.

prototype · 14 May 2008, 05:25 (Ref:2201779)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Does anyone think that Audi will run the bridge wing on the R10 that Joest used at Spa?

I didn't know Audi changed the wings at Spa. Do you have any photos?

brielga · 14 May 2008, 05:34 (Ref:2201781)

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Originally Posted by prototype

I didn't know Audi changed the wings at Spa. Do you have any photos?

picture 18 http://www.planetlemans.com/2008/05/...pitlane-shots/

HORNDAWG · 14 May 2008, 05:57 (Ref:2201791)

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Originally Posted by prototype

Its a Sunday race.

I do believe he was responding to;

Quote:

GA's races are timed like ALMS races

And the GA race at Laguna is being run Sat. and televised Sun. Just my opinion of course.

L.P.

mattcat · 14 May 2008, 12:46 (Ref:2202111)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Oh, Lord forbid, a P-1 should have an advantage!

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that's a bad thing. I was just saying that this is one of the circuits where Audi should shine. Like the P2's were supposed to at the street circuits. And didn't. Hey, I could be wrong. Believe it or not it's happened before.

arakis · 15 May 2008, 01:13 (Ref:2202654)

I know you allready commented on this but I have a question
“The following “LM”GT2 cars may remove 25 kg from the minimum weight declared and listed on the Event Entry Form as received and approved by IMSA.
• Aston Martin Vantage
• Doran Ford GT
• Panoz Esperante LMGT
• Riley Chevrolet Corvette C6
The Porsche 911 RSR GT3 may continue at its currently homologated weight.”

why is porsche mentioned at all, was it runing on more weight until now or was it runing on less, I dodnt understand why it is mentioned, if the weight brackes dont apply to it, anyone kno or have a link to porsche's homogolated weight,, is it 1225

broadrun96 · 15 May 2008, 01:46 (Ref:2202666)

Wasn't Porsche running at a higher weight to take advantage of using a GT1 spec rear tire? Not sure that is still true but think I read something about that last season some time.

HORNDAWG · 15 May 2008, 02:10 (Ref:2202677)

The Porsche's are supposed to be at 1225 for the tire size that they are running. But it is my understanding that they have been running the 25kg light from Sebring as an adjustment to the 430's mid engine lay-out and that the rest of the cars are getting it now. I think the GT is getting it just cuzz. And for the Viper to not get it I would think that it is already being given breaks as it is running under waiver at the moment.

L.P.

gwyllion · 15 May 2008, 08:50 (Ref:2202874)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

The Porsche's are supposed to be at 1225 for the tire size that they are running. But it is my understanding that they have been running the 25kg light from Sebring as an adjustment to the 430's mid engine lay-out and that the rest of the cars are getting it now.

I find this hard to believe. Can you point me to the IMSA bulletin? I don't find this on http://www.imsaracing.net/imsaNS2.cf...dexnewalms.htm

arakis · 15 May 2008, 11:07 (Ref:2202980)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

The Porsche's are supposed to be at 1225 for the tire size that they are running. But it is my understanding that they have been running the 25kg light from Sebring as an adjustment to the 430's mid engine lay-out and that the rest of the cars are getting it now.

HORNDAWG were did you get this info can you comfirm it somewere

NightStalk3r · 15 May 2008, 12:59 (Ref:2203070)

I thought the weight reduction only applied to the FIA GT.

minimangler · 15 May 2008, 13:26 (Ref:2203091)

Gwyllion, I'm fairly sure Porsche are running higher weight for GT1 tyres.

gwyllion · 15 May 2008, 13:44 (Ref:2203114)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

Gwyllion, I'm fairly sure Porsche are running higher weight for GT1 tyres.

Yes of course. But HORNDAWG claims Porsche runs with 1200 kg in ALMS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

But it is my understanding that they have been running the 25kg light from Sebring as an adjustment to the 430's mid engine lay-out and that the rest of the cars are getting it now.

Spyderman · 15 May 2008, 13:59 (Ref:2203126)

There are no IMSA bulletins issued this year to indicate that the Porsche's have received any weight breaks.

HORNDAWG · 15 May 2008, 15:04 (Ref:2203166)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

I find this hard to believe. Can you point me to the IMSA bulletin? I don't find this on http://www.imsaracing.net/imsaNS2.cf...dexnewalms.htm

I myself have been through everything that I can think of to find a reference for it but cannot either. But this comes from the inside and you can believe it or not as you will, I will believe it until proven otherwise.

The key I believe lies in this;

Quote:

The Porsche 911 RSR GT3 may continue at its currently homologated weight.

L.P.

brielga · 15 May 2008, 15:29 (Ref:2203186)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyderman

There are no IMSA bulletins issued this year to indicate that the Porsche's have received any weight breaks.

Correct, I'm suspecting Badger burned all evidence

brielga · 15 May 2008, 15:29 (Ref:2203187)

seriously now, I have not seen any rule-break bulletin for GT2 Porsches either....

gwyllion · 15 May 2008, 15:59 (Ref:2203210)

@HORNDAWG: The currently homologated weight in ACO/IMSA racing = 1225 kg

HORNDAWG · 15 May 2008, 16:12 (Ref:2203219)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

@HORNDAWG: The currently homologated weight in ACO/IMSA racing = 1225 kg

And you have seen the 08 997 homologation form on file with the ACO/IMSA? I know what the general class rules state! I also know that there are variances asked for and granted all the time during homologation that are not addressed/announced to the public. The most recent that comes to mind is the ground effects on the Vantage GT-2 which at least allowed them to run a 100mm splitter in excess of the body line as seen from above which is not legal in the class but was granted during the homologation process. So I ask again where is there a copy of the ACO 08 997 homologation form specifically, that is accessable by the public?

L.P.

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