[WEC Race] Portimão 8 Hours 2021 - Page 4

J Jay · 13 Jun 2021, 11:00 (Ref:4056091)

Pretty much on the hour for Glickenhaus' first stop, 3-4 minutes more than the Toyotas.

Edit - Puncture for Perrodo? Destroyed the front-right quarter panel.

**Aysedasi** · 13 Jun 2021, 11:01 (Ref:4056092)

Another tyre let go. #83. A lot of damage.

Gingers4Justice · 13 Jun 2021, 11:03 (Ref:4056093)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Definitely, they've had at least a year to prepare non-hybrid tyres that won't be ready until next season...

Some good action between #29 & #41, just before they both pit.

It's almost as if tyre suppliers are disincentivised to make their best product without a tyre war...

canaglia · 13 Jun 2021, 11:03 (Ref:4056094)

toyota max stint length extended to 57minutes, glickenhaus 59 minutes

**Aysedasi** · 13 Jun 2021, 11:05 (Ref:4056095)

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Originally Posted by canaglia

toyota max stint length extended to 57minutes, glickenhaus 59 minutes

Over an 8 hour race, interesting……

J Jay · 13 Jun 2021, 11:07 (Ref:4056096)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

It's almost as if tyre suppliers are disincentivised to make their best product without a tyre war...

Preaching to the choir mate. As usual in top-level motorsport, it's either a cost-escalating free-for-all, or a still expensive and substandard single supplier in the name of cost-saving.

Let's quietly ignore Super GT managing open tyre regulations (2008-) for over a decade more or less successfully.

Edit - Westbrook confirming that the tyres blister after 3-4 laps (but it's the rears that are worst off), and that they are just going round to see what works.

Pandamasque · 13 Jun 2021, 11:37 (Ref:4056104)

Those large louvres in the 007 LMH wheel arches provide a good view of the tyre blisters!

I really hope we won't see them as much at Le Mans (and Monza by extension). Algavre is a bit of a unique circuit. Lots of loooong high-load corners.

Fantastic circuit thought. Would be perfect with more grass and gravel in the run-offs.

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Bit strange with these tires. Feels like Michelin have dropped the ball.

I seem to remember this happening before, when Michelin favoured mid/rear engine GTE tire development, which forced Aston to switch to Dunlop for a while. And this is where I join the club of those wishing a tyre supplier switch was still an option.

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It would have been a lot easier to wage this war on the pace of LMP2s if it were just Dallaras, Ligiers and Multimatics. That Oreca is just such a superb chassis, it seems almost impossible to neuter it.

Seems to be a lot easier once you put stickers on it that say "HyperCar". Those things must be heavy!

J Jay · 13 Jun 2021, 11:55 (Ref:4056110)

Welp, Briscoe misjudges a lapping overtake, hip checks an Aston (#97?) which collects he #79 Porsche.

TzeiTzei · 13 Jun 2021, 12:11 (Ref:4056117)

The Alpine isn't quite quick enough to make this work.

Gingers4Justice · 13 Jun 2021, 12:13 (Ref:4056119)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Welp, Briscoe misjudges a lapping overtake, hip checks an Aston (#97?) which collects he #79 Porsche.

The #22 crew must have avoided black cats and walking under ladder all season. So fortunate not to be collected.

**joeb** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:13 (Ref:4056120)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Welp, Briscoe misjudges a lapping overtake, hip checks an Aston (#97?) which collects he #79 Porsche.

I missed the first two hours of the race, then turned it on just to see the car going into the garage. Seems as if they have some engine issues after that contact.

Gingers4Justice · 13 Jun 2021, 12:15 (Ref:4056122)

Took over two hours for the Toyotas to lap the P2 leader. Privateer LMP2s are closer to the OEMs in the top class than they were for most of the LMP1-hybrid era!

I know many aren't a fan of these slower cars, but the depressing gap to the privateers did put a dampner on the previous era for me.

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:19 (Ref:4056124)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Anyone watching?

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Yes!!

Yes. But I started at just gone 7am here, which means I’m in catch-up.

Currently just seen the Glickenhaus get caught up with the GT cars.

(24 minutes behind)

Pandamasque · 13 Jun 2021, 12:21 (Ref:4056125)

Very clumsy and costly move by Briscoe.

**Aysedasi** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:23 (Ref:4056126)

That’s what happens when you use GT drivers inexperienced in proto machinery…. They’ll learn and get better.

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:24 (Ref:4056127)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Took over two hours for the Toyotas to lap the P2 leader. Privateer LMP2s are closer to the OEMs in the top class than they were for most of the LMP1-hybrid era!

I know many aren't a fan of these slower cars, but the depressing gap to the privateers did put a dampner on the previous era for me.

This year is great for all the fans of sportscar. Those who enjoy racing see the second class close and the benefits of that. Those real sportscar fans haeb something to complain about. Win win.

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:26 (Ref:4056128)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

Those large louvres in the 007 LMH wheel arches provide a good view of the tyre blisters!

I really hope we won't see them as much at Le Mans (and Monza by extension). Algavre is a bit of a unique circuit. Lots of loooong high-load corners.

Westbrook mused that the circuit didn’t help.

Pandamasque · 13 Jun 2021, 12:27 (Ref:4056129)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

That’s what happens when you use GT drivers inexperienced in proto machinery…. They’ll learn and get better.

Has Briscoe no prototype experience?

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:28 (Ref:4056130)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I missed the first two hours of the race, then turned it on just to see the car going into the garage. Seems as if they have some engine issues after that contact.

Briscoe mentioned clutch.
I’ve only just seen it go back out and get back in.
At full throttle the clutch clips.

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:31 (Ref:4056131)

Toyotas swap round. Been close between them. Good fight.

**joeb** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:33 (Ref:4056132)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

That’s what happens when you use GT drivers inexperienced in proto machinery…. They’ll learn and get better.

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

Has Briscoe no prototype experience?

Briscoe ran protos in IMSA with Penske previously.

He certainly misjudged the speed of his car versus the GT cars in that overtake attempt. I'd say it's more of a symptom of a slower top class than anything else!

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:33 (Ref:4056133)

Pace and pit stops playing out has expected. Alpine need to strap a tank to the back.

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:34 (Ref:4056134)

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Originally Posted by joeb

He certainly misjudged the speed of his car versus the GT cars in that overtake attempt. I'd say it's more of a symptom of a slower top class than anything else!

**Aysedasi** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:42 (Ref:4056135)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Briscoe ran protos in IMSA with Penske previously.

He certainly misjudged the speed of his car versus the GT cars in that overtake attempt. I'd say it's more of a symptom of a slower top class than anything else!

Sorry, I have a bad habit of completely disregarding IMSA…..?

**Adam43** · 13 Jun 2021, 12:42 (Ref:4056136)

31 in trouble for blue flags. That’s going to hurt.

Proton porsche needing to use replacement bumper that they use in the ELMS after the Glick crash!

But in the garage.

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