ASCAR's new home

[Rod Birley]

Got CAMSO and trucks coming to Lydden. Keep asking the Legends but no luck so far.

[ss_collins]

I hope to be racing in the CAMSO there rod...

[kelvin88]

...well...driving round anyway, eh Sam?

[R59]

Miaow! Saucer of milk for table two!!!

Tris, come and see us on the 31st May at Lydden.

Brands on the 15th June.

Should be fun!

[OVERSTEER]

I might head to Mallory at the end of september, is it gonna be on the oval, or with the loop?

[R59]

Because we're joined at the hip with the VSR's - it's on the road course.

We are discussing using the Mallory Mile for next season, plus other options.

[Minicross424]

I will take you up on that offer thankyou Rob.
I still fancy trying my hand at being a spotter on the ovals, do they do courses in the uk?

[ss_collins]

Kelv I'm so gonna stick it to you - eventually!!!

[Chigley]

I still fancy trying my hand at being a spotter on the ovals, do they do courses in the uk?

The PuT do periodic courses at Rockingham, I would advise calling SHP on 01353861168, I believe it is the same licence for PuT and V8's.

[vjay48]

i was at silverstone on sunday,5 or 6 ex vsr cars were in the same race as my son, i cannot believe you will get a grid of cars with v8,vsr,and v6,be honest its finished.

[kelvin88]

Originally Posted by ss_collins

Kelv I'm so gonna stick it to you - eventually!!!

Can i tell them about you and the Fiesta bonnet?

[ss_collins]

you bugger!

[R59]

Originally Posted by vjay48

i was at silverstone on sunday,5 or 6 ex vsr cars were in the same race as my son, i cannot believe you will get a grid of cars with v8,vsr,and v6,be honest its finished.

Thank you for your positive outlook.

At Lydden, there are 7 V8's confirmed, with a possibility that it may become 9, but the other two are down to their owners having time to get them prepared. Like me, they have other fish to fry (work!), and that has to come first.

I have had someone ask me to supply/run a car for them - someone from outside of the series who has been waiting to try one on a road course for a few years!

We have lost a few people who did not want to do road courses at all, one of whom may be swayed if we can get some oval (either Rockingham, or Mallory Mile) dates for next season.

You could say that we're starting from scratch now. Our series co-ordinator is brimming with enthusiasm for the first time in a couple of years. People like Colin White are absolutely full of it! Colin is aiming to have two of his cars out at Lydden, with a third ready for Brands, and hopefully his fourth before Snetterton. He has drivers interested.

It's a shame that our French friends are full of it, otherwise there was a good chance that we could have done something together. Kelv and Sam know all about that!!

There's soooo much interest in NASCAR from a spectator aspect in the UK and Europe, yet sod all interest at a "race championship" level to make it happen properly.

I've been looking at both the Mexican and the Canadian "NASCAR" championships to see how they're going, and they seem to be picking up now that Mr France's influence is behind them.

[ss_collins]

There could be a decent late model series in Europe if people all sat down round a table and sorted it out with decent promotion, PR, realistic costs (More CAMSO than ASCAR) proper cars (NASCAR Weekly or Late /Super Late Model) and visiting proper tracks, Mallory Mile, Warneton, Lydden. And people could work together to find new potential venues (theres some great development land round calais...)

[R59]

But to be accepted by the establishment, it needs to be a "dual mode" series - like NASCAR, and do road courses as well as ovals. Short (0.5mile) and big ovals.

It needs to be road course based, with excursions to ovals, building up the oval experience.

It'll take a lot of building, but it needs to be right first time, which is why Late Model/ Super Late Model isn't any good to us - it's an oval only formula. ASCAR for it's sins and shortcomings, is multi-format capable - one chassis for both oval and road course.

It's the closest thing to CoT we've got without the freaky bodywork - though that could be arranged with a spot of composite bodywork moulding.

You know I'm right.

[kelvin88]

Originally Posted by R59

But to be accepted by the establishment, it needs to be a "dual mode" series - like NASCAR, and do road courses as well as ovals. Short (0.5mile) and big ovals.

Why?!

[kelvin88]

By "why" i mean whos the Establishment?

[R59]

The non-short oval racing establishment.

Don't forget, that to some, short oval racers are considered as one step down from pikeys!!!

[kelvin88]

Ok and why would they want to be excepted by them?

[kelvin88]

Go and read the last post i put on the Speedcar thread and pretend its here.

Dont worry, i will wait...

[Minicross424]

Rob who are these "some"?
Point them in my direction as alot of short oval racing is far better than the jumped up morons racing there shiney weekend toy !

[ss_collins]

Yup - I'm with Kelv - who cares about the motor racing establishment - its well catered for. Lates/Super Lates are what would work - oval cars on oval cars. Not oval cars that sort of can be made to work on road courses but are rubbish compared to compared to proper road racers.

[acorn]

rob,

i applaud the efforts to keep the ascars alive BUT the one thing that worries me about a multi format series is the fact that you're already experiencing delays in getting cars to the grid because of the need to "roadify" the oval cars. what happens when you have to go back and forth. it's no problem with nascar, they'll have separate cars but i'm sure that option will be above the budget figures that you'll be setting yourselves.

[banger_racer]

Originally Posted by Minicross424

Rob who are these "some"?
Point them in my direction as alot of short oval racing is far better than the jumped up morons racing there shiney weekend toy !

Totally agree most people who slag it off have never watched or done it.

I also agree that a decent oval formula needs to be created.

[ss_collins]

I also agree that a decent oval formula needs to be created.

May I suggest that some already exist - the NHRPA could sort of be Formula 2 to CAMSO V8's F1. 2ltrs's being F3. What all those series need is a proper integrated PR campaign, not run by a 'pro' agency like Motion Works or RSM but by someone who actually understands oval racing and its potential markets. Oval racing is the peoples motorsport. I believe that the three series mentioned have the potential to rival DTM for spectator numbers but they need a proper five to ten year plan, they need to work together and I just don't think the people in charge of the series truly understand what they could be.

As for ASCAR, give up on it - its dead, its an ex race series. Rob give in - get yourself a real NASCAR and come do CAMSO. (I'm grumpy cos I can't drive on Friday)