McLaren MP4/24 thread (2009 car) - Page 4

Rory · 17 Jan 2009, 21:14 (Ref:2373503)

Surely the single, most important issue is that it's the fastest, most reliable car on the grid (if you, like me, are a McLaren fan)?

We can debate til the cows come home on the wing, the side pods, etc... But so long as it's keeping the red, white and variety of other colours behind it, it could look like a London cab for all I care

As it happens, I think it looks superb and as Martin Witmarsh said, if it looks good out of the box, it'll probably go equally as good.

Not nearly as bad as I expected these cars to look with the new regs and I must admit to thinking the F60 looks quite neat as well. I like the rakish sidepods on all the cars so far. Most of all, it just looks like a proper race car now with slicks on it. Those bloody grooved affairs was like coming face to face with a stunning looking girl, only to have her smile at you and flash a mouth full of braces at you

Just off topic, but I see Ferrari have changed their test next week to Mugello... perhaps a sign that all is not well with their design to date. Be interested to see how the MP4/24 matches up against the BMW early doors.

Rockmunky · 17 Jan 2009, 21:36 (Ref:2373512)

I like it.
Probably the best looking car launched so far.

Sodemo · 17 Jan 2009, 23:09 (Ref:2373566)

No pics from the test?

Marbot · 18 Jan 2009, 00:11 (Ref:2373582)

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Originally Posted by Rory

Just off topic, but I see Ferrari have changed their test next week to Mugello... perhaps a sign that all is not well with their design to date.

It's more to do with the weather than anything else.Apparently Southern Europe is going to get more than its fair share of wet weather over the next few months,so Ferrari are doing their best to test where it's (hopefully) dry.

RaiseYourFist · 18 Jan 2009, 00:13 (Ref:2373583)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory

Just off topic, but I see Ferrari have changed their test next week to Mugello... perhaps a sign that all is not well with their design to date. Be interested to see how the MP4/24 matches up against the BMW early doors.

While Ferrari having problems with their car would be very sweet i think that they are moving to Italy for the test because of the weather.

Marbot · 18 Jan 2009, 01:14 (Ref:2373601)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

No pics from the test?

No? It would have been nice to see the car on some tarmac.

andy_b · 18 Jan 2009, 09:31 (Ref:2373742)

private test. Open next week

Rory · 18 Jan 2009, 09:56 (Ref:2373753)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marbot

It's more to do with the weather than anything else.Apparently Southern Europe is going to get more than its fair share of wet weather over the next few months,so Ferrari are doing their best to test where it's (hopefully) dry.

Yeah, that's the story their telling, but I personally believe it's due to having so many major faults during their shake down and they don't want to travel a far distance and have similar problems. Trying to keep face if you ask me.

Jeff 8 · 18 Jan 2009, 11:15 (Ref:2373794)

It's good to see them back on slicks, at last they look ready for a dry race!

Jeff

slicktoast · 19 Jan 2009, 17:30 (Ref:2374690)

Seems McLaren are testing the new car with the old rear wing? Maybe the new wing would reveal something in the rooster spray today? Also the rear exhaust ports on the pods had an additional piece fitted that didn't seem aero except in the old Kamm back sense. Anybody out there that can shed some light?

staid davenport · 20 Jan 2009, 13:39 (Ref:2375325)

I like it better with the old rear wing. The front wing still looks a bit odd, but combined with the old rear wing the whole car looks more in proportion.

Steevp · 21 Jan 2009, 13:28 (Ref:2376090)

Never mind the rear wing, look at those front wheel hub cover.. erm.. UFO things..

ECW Dan Selby · 21 Jan 2009, 13:52 (Ref:2376112)

Eeeew..... not nice at all

Selby

Knowlesy · 21 Jan 2009, 14:17 (Ref:2376144)

They've been used before in tests.

ECW Dan Selby · 21 Jan 2009, 17:27 (Ref:2376273)

Yeh I seen them before, yet they get no prettier.

Selby

Rory · 21 Jan 2009, 21:23 (Ref:2376398)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiseYourFist

While Ferrari having problems with their car would be very sweet i think that they are moving to Italy for the test because of the weather.

..... where it was bone dry and the sun was splitting the tarmac????

Knowlesy · 22 Jan 2009, 01:34 (Ref:2376518)

Yeah, every day has been wet thus far pretty much!

andy_b · 22 Jan 2009, 06:42 (Ref:2376584)

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Originally Posted by Steevp

Never mind the rear wing, look at those front wheel hub cover.. erm.. UFO things..

Not legal for races, used in tests only

**Bononi** · 22 Jan 2009, 12:51 (Ref:2376773)

You got to wonder how confortable the driver is sitting there...

Super Hans · 22 Jan 2009, 13:25 (Ref:2376794)

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Originally Posted by Bononi

You got to wonder how confortable the driver is sitting there...

Aye, you'd definitely get fizzy feet sitting like that.

Lotusonpole · 22 Jan 2009, 13:31 (Ref:2376800)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

Aye, you'd definitely get fizzy feet sitting like that.

Some say its good for the head to have the feet raised.....for nose bleeds?

crmalcolm · 22 Jan 2009, 20:46 (Ref:2377075)

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Originally Posted by Bononi

You got to wonder how confortable the driver is sitting there...

Comparing the car to previous years, it looks like the driver's position and leg elevation is no higher or lower.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...d08esp1999.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Monza_2007.jpg

Lotusonpole · 23 Jan 2009, 13:03 (Ref:2377533)

I think the current driving position and leg elevation has been around for some time. Changing a few millimeters here and there depending on the year and car.

I imagine this kind of leg elevation arrived with the high nose cars a few years ago. It might be interesting to compare those with the McLaren of the time as I seem to remember it retaining a low nose. Year? ?

Cheers
Peter

juicy sushi · 23 Jan 2009, 16:56 (Ref:2377704)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotusonpole

I think the current driving position and leg elevation has been around for some time. Changing a few millimeters here and there depending on the year and car.

I imagine this kind of leg elevation arrived with the high nose cars a few years ago. It might be interesting to compare those with the McLaren of the time as I seem to remember it retaining a low nose. Year? ?

Cheers
Peter

i seem to remember the 1994 mclaren though having a very pronounced curve to the nose area, even though the tip was low. i think the driving position might have been fairly similar to a high nose car...

crmalcolm · 23 Jan 2009, 18:40 (Ref:2377788)

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Originally Posted by juicy sushi

i seem to remember the 1994 mclaren though having a very pronounced curve to the nose area, even though the tip was low. i think the driving position might have been fairly similar to a high nose car...

It definitely was curved, but looks like it had a bit more low-down room for legs/pedals.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2088/...ebf3233826.jpg

I still think that the current high leg position has been around for a while now, and I don't recall any driver having problems with this.

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