US F1, Campos Grand Prix and Manor F1 - The silence is deafening

[jab]

Originally Posted by Taprobane

There are a few guys out there with F1 experience who I think would be better options than JV (although not necessarily for USF1 due to their North American aims) such as Ant Davidson, Taku, Klien, Liuzzi, Speed...

And how many of these have won races and the world title?

Not to mention guys like Barichello who are likely to be out of a drive next year...

I'd say Rubens' most likely destination at this stage is Williams

[Last2LiftOff]

Originally Posted by Bononi

I remember that... who was the guy from the pits who pushed the button "smash JV" in the last race of the season ?

Ah...Dave Richards?

[Taprobane]

And if Rubens goes to Williams there will be an experienced F1 driver out of a job...

Although those guys haven't races and titles none of them have been in the dominant car in F1, something JV most certainly has.

Personally if I were starting a team top of my list would be Ant, quality driver with recent experience who can really develop a car.

[csirl]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

I don't know where this computer-controlled car idea has come from. Traction control was banned in 1997 so it can't be that.

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In 1997 it was illegal to run driver aids on the car, but there was a loophole exploited by the teams. It wasnt illegal to have them on the car and at that time it wasnt possible to check the car mid race, so the race officials had no idea whether these aids were switched on during races. It is well known that a number of teams exploited this loophole before it was closed.

The traction control/active suspensions DID compensate for driver errors - computers could kick in and adjust the wheelspin and turning to ensure a car did not slide off the track - cars effectively had something similar to the flight envelope on some modern passenger jets.

In addition to this, a lot of adjustments could be made remotely from the pits in this era - similar to the adjustments you see present day drivers making mid lap with their steering wheel buttons/knobs.

[Félix]

Look at the suspension on a real active suspension car vs a traditional car. One has hydraulic actuators, the other has standard dampers. JV's FW19 had standard dampers.

Oh, and JV beat everybody with it, INCLUDING his teamate who went on to be 3rd in the WC 2 years later.

[courageous]

Back to the testing restrictions question - as the new teams have entered the 2010 F1 championship, could you not argue that the rule book does not apply to them in 2009 & therefore they can do as much testing as they want?

[jab]

Originally Posted by Taprobane

And if Rubens goes to Williams there will be an experienced F1 driver out of a job...

I can think of plenty of words other than experienced to describe Kazuki Nakajima tbh

[nea]

"The next Nakano" are just 3 words I picked. At random.

[jab]

Originally Posted by nea

"The next Nakano" are just 3 words I picked. At random.

Hmm, bit harsh

I mean on Shinji. He didn't stick it in the wall that often

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by courageous

Back to the testing restrictions question - as the new teams have entered the 2010 F1 championship, could you not argue that the rule book does not apply to them in 2009 & therefore they can do as much testing as they want?

hmmm....good question.Although they would have probably already agreed not to do that,even if it were possible.

[chunterer]

Amusing hearing Peter Windsor's comments during FP1 earlier.

He was outlining what he expects from USF1 next year, things like driver friendly, simple to set up chassis, 'solid baselines' and points in their first season.

[cds_uk]

We all know that Nick Wirth is penning the Manor car, Campos have got Dallara drawing theirs, does anyone know who is responsible for the USF1 car? Its not Ken Anderson is it?

[Jacques Rabbit]

Originally Posted by cds_uk

We all know that Nick Wirth is penning the Manor car, Campos have got Dallara drawing theirs, does anyone know who is responsible for the USF1 car? Its not Ken Anderson is it?

Yep...it's Ken.

[Sodemo]

Do the new teams know that they have to build a full size fuel tank for next year?

Perhaps someone should let them know, does anyone have their phone numbers?

[Adri_tifosi]

Gabrielle Tredozi , former Minardi and Toro Rosso Technical Director is rumored for Campos Meta 1

[shambles]

Nakajima gets undue criticism; the kid isn't a world beater but I think he's proved himself more than deserving of his seat. Whoever compared him unfavorably with Shinji Nakano was, well, wrong.

[Born Racer]

Yes, and I think it's exacerbeated by the possibility that Rosberg is a bit special.

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by jab

And how many of these have won races and the world title?

When JV had the same standard equipment as the other guys mentioned, how many races and titles did he (JV) win?

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by Taprobane

And if Rubens goes to Williams there will be an experienced F1 driver out of a job...

I'm sure that Rubens and Williams will now prove me wrong but i have to question whether Williams would want to take a risk on Rubens after his "5%" comments this weekend?

What happens if 4 races in next season he decides that he really doesn't want to do it anymore?

I can see (and indeed am hoping) Nico and Heikki doing a straight swap.

[ghinzani]

So apparently the Cosworths are going to be much more thirsty thus the cars will need 18kg more fuel which means they will be 3-4 secs a lap slower... Therefore this is apparently the reason De la Rosa wont commit to Campos in case a drive comes up at Epsilon who will have Renault motors if they get the green light.

Im all for backmarker teams but 3-4 secs a lap, thats just crazy and will surely finish these teams before they start? Will we see a return to the higher limits for Cosworths now?

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by ghinzani

So apparently the Cosworths are going to be much more thirsty thus the cars will need 18kg more fuel which means they will be 3-4 secs a lap slower... Therefore this is apparently the reason De la Rosa wont commit to Campos in case a drive comes up at Epsilon who will have Renault motors if they get the green light.

Im all for backmarker teams but 3-4 secs a lap, thats just crazy and will surely finish these teams before they start? Will we see a return to the higher limits for Cosworths now?

Have you a link? Because Cosworth are still working on their engine for next season (they are allowed to bring it up to the current specs of other engines).

[the sniper]

Originally Posted by ghinzani

So apparently the Cosworths are going to be much more thirsty thus the cars will need 18kg more fuel which means they will be 3-4 secs a lap slower... Therefore this is apparently the reason De la Rosa wont commit to Campos in case a drive comes up at Epsilon who will have Renault motors if they get the green light.

Im all for backmarker teams but 3-4 secs a lap, thats just crazy and will surely finish these teams before they start? Will we see a return to the higher limits for Cosworths now?

This is what I read too. I think it was on Autosport or Grandprix.com, wasn't it?

[jab]

Originally Posted by Marbot

Have you a link? Because Cosworth are still working on their engine for next season (they are allowed to bring it up to the current specs of other engines).

GP.com

[Kebab]

There's no way the FIA or anyone else will allow 6 cars or more lapping 3 secs off the pace ... Cosworth will be there or thereabouts by the time the season starts

[duke_toaster]

Surely an increased rev limit would compound the weight issues as they would use more fuel.

Who has the IP to Honda's V8 (or will get BMW's)? Perhaps Cosworth could buy the rights to have a butcher's or just build the Honda/BMW design if need be ...