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Old 17 Mar 2002, 16:13 (Ref:237529)   #76
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As I said if RS is in the open he is very fast. Another thing is how powerful that BMW must be. My God their fuel tank must have been huge and full to the rim. Gotta respect that. RS had the strategy. Its a shame JPM was shafted. I think it would have been nice to see them fight. I feel that JPM is a better racer but the chance was not given to prove me wrong. Fact is RS got the first win for Williams this year. Hopefully the new Ferrari is as much an improvement as the new BAR. That way there will be a title fight.

I must also say it was the worst race coverage I have ever witnessed. MS and JPM were out passing people and we get to see RB drive around by himself.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 16:18 (Ref:237533)   #77
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I must also say it was the worst race coverage I have ever witnessed. MS and JPM were out passing people and we get to see RB drive around by himself.
this proberbly doesn't affect you neil, but i watched the race live on sky and the coverage was brilliant. i've just watched itv's coverage on their re-run at it was plain awful! it didn't show any overtaking or even jpm driving through the pits for his (unfair) penalty!
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 16:52 (Ref:237570)   #78
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Once again, some of the posts in THIS topic are, frankly, childish. What's going on this weekend??????

Ralfie got the race setup spot on, the strategy spot on made no mistakes and KEPT OUT OF TROUBLE. JPM ruined the first three because he didn't do the latter. If you've a car on the inside who's going to understeer PLUS the advantage of a left hander coming right up YOU KEEP OVER TO THE LEFT. SIMPLE. Whilst the penalty was unjust, but by then he was in 7th anyway.

Where's the controversy?? Where's the issue?? Where's the story??
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 17:02 (Ref:237586)   #79
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Answer:West-McLaren-Mercedes 2001&2002
I don't get it.
If you call the West-McLaren 2001 a joke (2nd in the WCC, 2nd&5th in the WDC), then how should we call the team that was 3rd in the WCC and 4th&6th in the WDC?
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 17:06 (Ref:237589)   #80
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w/t/f??? " If you've a car on the inside who's going to understeer" How would JPM know what MS is going to do. It is up the the man behind to ease off if he cant make the pass. Its really not that complicated. It was MS's fault! Do you know a way to stop understeer? Hitting the brake!

How are people being childish by expressing their thoughts. That is what this board is here for. I dont understand why anyone woud say that. If there is a conversation that is not to my liking I dont post.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 17:09 (Ref:237592)   #81
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Once again, some of the posts in THIS topic are, frankly, childish. What's going on this weekend??????

Ralfie got the race setup spot on, the strategy spot on made no mistakes and KEPT OUT OF TROUBLE. JPM ruined the first three because he didn't do the latter. If you've a car on the inside who's going to understeer PLUS the advantage of a left hander coming right up YOU KEEP OVER TO THE LEFT. SIMPLE. Whilst the penalty was unjust, but by then he was in 7th anyway.

Where's the controversy?? Where's the issue?? Where's the story??
The international coverage missed the incident in the first corner.
They didn't show Montoya's drive-through.
They didn't show Michael overtaking Bernoldi the first time.
A couple of seconds later, after showing Michael in front of Bernoldi, they missed Bernoldi overtaking Michael.

During most of the final lap, they showed Montoya, driving 2nd place with noone close in front or behind, in stead of showing either Ralf (leader of the race) or Button (clearly in troubles).
Then when they finally showed Button, they missed Michael finishing 3rd ...
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 17:12 (Ref:237594)   #82
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do yourselves a favour, get bernievision (digital coverage!) if you can. it may cost extra but it's worth it!
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 18:26 (Ref:237665)   #83
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Well the Brasilian times are certainly more favourable. Problem is I'm at Brands on race day... GRRRRRR!!!!!
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 19:01 (Ref:237697)   #84
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Congrats to all the Ralf fans , he had the better strategy today and drove consistently without rear ending anyone, which is a great improvement over Australia A Willy 1-2 was excellent to see last night and who cares is Ralfie won over monty.
Some of my fellow Monty fans need to calm down a touch and have a look at Juans day. There is plenty to celebrate in his performance yesterday. The first corner was IMO a brilliant piece of driving and I pray we see more of the same this year. The race for the perfect line is usually over after Michael does his famous chop, legal or not, but with Juan we see a racer who still has a go, around the outside! Great stuff and the penalty was IMO completely and utterly ridiculous.I thought we were here to watch MOTOR RACING :confused:
His drive from the rear was first class and to finish in the points, let alone second, was a stupendous achievement.
Also, Michael did his thing and came from the back as well but didn't make a big impression on JPM. This is another reason to be happy, Willy yesterday had an equal car to the red ones and I pray that ferrari will hold back updating to this years beast for as long as possible. If it is a second a lap quicker, we will have a boring season to contend with in the title fight won't we.Bernoldi taking TGF was a classic F1 moment and I wish I could have heard TGF's comments as the Arrows reappeared Good one Berno for having a go, I'm starting to like this guys attitude
Great to see Jenson competitive and as for Jordan, this is going from bad to worse, and BAR ain't looking any better. One can only wonder what Honda is up to with the money and record they have.It's a real shame they don't have more power this year.As for Sato, you are starting to worry me boy and if this keeps up, could we see the return of Alesi ?

What a great race, the best at Malaysia so far IMO.

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Old 17 Mar 2002, 20:31 (Ref:237776)   #85
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Ralf first!

The wonders of modern science. JPM was dealth harshly and should have been first across the line. Michael pulled third from the jaws of defeat, of such things championships are made. Of Ron's boys. When will it end?
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 21:08 (Ref:237799)   #86
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Ralf's win was excellent because not only was it the first Williams BMW win of the season - importantly it was in only the 2nd race of the season. Last year Ralf won the 4th race of the season and got a lot of points in the middle but couldnt mount a championship challange since he lost out in the first 3 races.

This time though - he has 10 points in the 2nd race with Brazil and Imola next on the card. I think both Williams will be strong with Ralf having the edge at Imola and Brazil being a bit closer..

Besides Ralf's brilliant drive - it was also a great effort by BMW. A BMW 1-2. In hot conditions with the highest reving engine in the paddock whereas down the pit lane Mercedes couldnt even see the c-flag despite being well off the pace compared to the BMW.

Just goes to show what the boys in Munich have managed to accomplish.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 22:36 (Ref:237861)   #87
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I'm still a little skeptical that TGF can be beaten in the WC. But if anybody can do it, it's definitely the 2 Williams drivers.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 22:43 (Ref:237867)   #88
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It wasn't a bad race. I thought the Malaysian coverage (ie. replays and camera footage) was absolutely appalling. I lost count of the amount of passes I saw on the timing screens, yet hardly any of them were shown on the telly. And, at one stage the midfield were separated by a handful of seconds dicing it out, and we only saw shots of one car on its own. The leaders are the leaders, but sometimes it's good to see some racing.

Wonderful performance by Williams. Ralf was the man today.

I did feel sorry for Rubens. Things just never seem to go right for him.

Great performances by Montoya, McNish, Button & Bernoldi. At the start of the year, if someone told me Bernoldi would have passed Schumacher this year, I would have slapped them.
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There is no point in saying "well he won BUT..."
no matter what race u look at you can always come up with that line.
you cant say well "ralf would have won even if montoya was not touched by shumacher and not UNJUSTLY penalized" well...guess what u dont know that.

nor can i say, well juan would have ran away with it...because i cant see into the future.
however, i do feel that juan could have taken the race...thats just my opinion.

halfie won and thats that. weather or not juan was knocked into the grass and penalized is irrelevant.

if it were hafie and jerk shumacher that got tangled up and juan ran away with it...both the hafie fans and jerky fans would be saying "well juan won because..."

on the standings there is no asterisk next to the points explaning the race results. just the points...and halfie got them.

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Old 17 Mar 2002, 23:06 (Ref:237878)   #90
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I'm still a little skeptical that TGF can be beaten in the WC. But if anybody can do it, it's definitely the 2 Williams drivers.
I think Ralf is looking good to challenge MS in the Ferrari. If Williams can maintain their reliability, I dont see Ferrari running away with the championship. I doubt their new car will be a second a lap quicker than the BMW Williams. Ferrari will have the edge on some circuits, but Williams wont be too worried about that.

Ralf has started the season off very well - outqualified his team mate at Aus and would have been quicker IMO had Barrichelo not shunted him off - and offcourse Ralf outraced everyone at Sepang going home with 10 points.

The Mclarens are increasingly falling back - and I doubt whether the car or the two drivers are capable enough to fight back and lead the championship like Hakkinen did from a similar situation in 2000.
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Well guys, Ralf may have just wrapped up the championship.
Whenever there is adisagreement on theses boards people (or should I say certain people) love to pull out statistics.
Well statistically the winner of this race has gone on to be champion.
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Eddie Irvine didn't win the championship.
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Last year Ralf won the 4th race of the season and got a lot of points in the middle but couldnt mount a championship challange since he lost out in the first 3 races.
he also lost out to his team mate at the end of the season! but, it looks like the wdc will be between tgf , jpm and rafe which can only be good, championships between 2 drivers is ok but the more the merrier! so come on ron dennis, give kimi something more reliable to play with and then dc can play no2 to "another" finn!!
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My standard post race review..to be taken with a grain of salt,,,,,and a shot of Tequila and a bite of lime..hehehe
Off the line Schumacher out smarts himself with his Cherokee Chop on Montoya when he overshoots too far to the right and in his effort to not yeild to Montoya, was off line and carrying a tad too much speed and pushed into Montoya, losing his front wing in the process.
Montoya pushed wide loses position back to about 12th or 13th, thus condeming him to having to come up thru the field and religating him to a game of catch up, which he did quite well, but when Ralf ran a flawless race with a brilliant one stop stradegy, it was obvious thhat second was the best he could hope for.
The McLarens continued to have problems first with Davids car then with Kimi spraying for mosquitos in dramatic fashion.
Problems trying to get sufficent horsepower from the new 90° V-10 which is said to only make 790 HP. The car is said to handle like a dream,,too bad the lump is,, well,, a lump.
Sato provided yet more fuel for the idea of his not belonging out on the track, when he rear-ended his teammate Fischella.
While Mika Salo and the Toyota showed that not all that money was wasted. BAR wish they could get it together in similar style.
The Renaults once again looked strong. With slight improvement they could prove to be strong runners for that third or fourth slot.
Jenson Button looked on track to take third til at the last Michael got past him,,,too bad.
The rest of the field ,,,well because of MY-TV3 I can't comment on much else in the field,,,I would have had to see it,,,hahaha.
Thumbs down and a huge Bronx cheer for Malaysian coverage.
It seems odd to me that Bernie and the FIA insist on certain standards for the circuits, why not for the local feed?
Seems there is room for improvement from a number of countries feeds...lets start at Sepang..
There you go My View of the race
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By the Way,,,Mac ,,we're talking statistics...three out of four.........
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Old 18 Mar 2002, 15:12 (Ref:238432)   #96
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There's no doubt the result of this race will do Ralf more good than Montoya. Everybody expected JPM to take their first win but it was Ralf. Suddenly Montoya will have to think more about HARD RACIN this year with Michael...something that wasn't really evident last year. Whereas i doubt Ralf will be in too many big incidents with Mike.
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Whereas i doubt Ralf will be in too many big incidents with Mike.
Too true,where JPM will go for a pass, Ralfie will quite happily continue to do what he has done his entire life.... follow his big brother.
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