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Just Do It! · 31 Mar 2004, 10:46 (Ref:925039)

Steve - When will SER add a second car? 2005 if you can sort out the necessary expansion?

Steve Ellery · 31 Mar 2004, 11:07 (Ref:925052)

Hi Pete55 and Just do it

Murray Cootes (Ihope thats how you spell it, Sorry Murray) is taking Ian Walburn`s place and the second car will hopefully be on track in 2005. We are working on potentail sponsors as we speak. Hope this helps

Steve

**GTRMagic** · 31 Mar 2004, 11:13 (Ref:925057)

Murray Coote, as in the Australian proflex damper distributor, and ARC winner many moons agi?

Crash Test · 31 Mar 2004, 11:16 (Ref:925059)

Hot stuff! Murray is a deadset guru, just a great shame that he can't be still flying around the world setting up Possum Bourne's scooby doos... Rallyings loss is circuit racing gain I suppose.

How long was Wally with the team? It's been a fair while hasn't it?

Just Do It! · 31 Mar 2004, 11:24 (Ref:925072)

Onya Steve. All the best for the Creek.

Wave the one car team flag proudly!

Steve Ellery · 31 Mar 2004, 20:38 (Ref:925624)

Hey Crash

I have never worked with Murray before but am certainly looking forward to it. He has a huge degree of talent and experience and I beleive he will be the man to take us to the next level. Wally was with us for three years, It`s a shame this split had to happen but as the saying goes, A change is as good as a Holiday. Catch you all at the creek.

Steve

Dipper · 1 Apr 2004, 05:22 (Ref:925973)

Murray Cootes is no stranger to V8 super cars having worked with Glenn Seton in the FTR days

smithers · 1 Apr 2004, 05:28 (Ref:925980)

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ellery
Hey Crash

I have never worked with Murray before but am certainly looking forward to it. He has a huge degree of talent and experience and I beleive he will be the man to take us to the next level. Wally was with us for three years, It`s a shame this split had to happen but as the saying goes, A change is as good as a Holiday. Catch you all at the creek.

Steve

Steve, i hope you know what you are in for when John McLean and Murray Coote get together!
What ever your normal order is with red wine, i'd double it!

sizzle · 1 Apr 2004, 06:46 (Ref:926011)

Is Mark Noske getting shafted, gets a new sponsor, then a new teammate, now finds it hard to get a drive.
here

pete55 · 1 Apr 2004, 07:24 (Ref:926036)

Looks a bit like it. Is Tony Noske still the lessee of the second Tasman franchise?

Just Do It! · 1 Apr 2004, 09:23 (Ref:926131)

Why does everyone keep missing the point?

Onlooker · 1 Apr 2004, 09:56 (Ref:926151)

WPS talking about Besnard
"Now he has the chance to consolidate his lead over the FPR drivers Lowndes and Seton in the championship."

Clutching straws can be fatal to you ego when they snap

**GTRMagic** · 1 Apr 2004, 10:06 (Ref:926157)

I am led to believe the 2nd franchise thing for WPS it not a problem any more... with the team apparently agreeing to terms with one of the three franchise holders to operate Mark Noske out of car #43 from the Pukekohe round.

Not sure how the team will cope with the transition from one to two cars, but presumably the acquisition of Mr Walburn will aid that process.

I am curious as to what makes a post in the 10/10ths forum constitute a part of the motorsport 'industry' but did anyone happen to take a squiz at this little baby Here

The more vehemently somebody denies something, the more truth there is likely to be at the source of it.

We have had Mr Ellery and the WPS PR machine refute the claims of Gudgeon amongst others made in here, which I am sure has made Gudgeon's day at having his words made famous, but as I sit here, I fail to see the point.

There is noise around and about regarding this and other issues.... it would be nice if that noise could be shared to let people understand that wallpaper put over plasterboard with holes in it will not work very well....

Boss330 · 1 Apr 2004, 10:09 (Ref:926160)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Onlooker
[B]WPS talking about Besnard
"Now he has the chance to consolidate his lead over the FPR drivers Lowndes and Seton in the championship."

Fred Flinstone & Barney Rubble could consolidate a lead over FPR at the moment

Onlooker · 1 Apr 2004, 10:24 (Ref:926170)

Quote:

Originally posted by GTRMagic

The more vehemently somebody denies something, the more truth there is likely to be at the source of it.

They haven't denied anything that is suggested,they are at great pains to say no less than 4 times in the press release that is by the way dated 01/04/04

including the following very specific statements,specific in that they tell you in no uncertain circumstances that they have not,they have "no deal", and have not signed a deal.How easy it would have been to replace on of the no deals with a "havent spoken to or have any plans to speak to him with any sort of offer or respond to any approach.

"WPS Racing team owner Craig Gore said today that there was no deal with Cragar."

"I’ve heard the speculation and I can categorically confirm that WPS Racing has no deal with Cragar,” said Gore."

“It does not. We have negotiated a deal with Ian and nobody else.

“We are still building WPS Racing and look forward to some further announcements in the future, but I am keen to reiterate that we have not signed Cragar to our team.”

PS not mud raking here Steve just wary about what things don't say more so than what they do say.

Onlooker · 1 Apr 2004, 10:26 (Ref:926174)

Cambell Little was a great pains to tell the world that he wanted all the talk and negotiations delayed untill post EC last year too didn't he

**GTRMagic** · 1 Apr 2004, 10:38 (Ref:926183)

So perhaps the deal is with the engine builder personally rather than the trading entity known as Cragar Performance...

Money makes the world go round. The non payment of money owed makes people do things they may otherwise not do!

Archer · 2 Apr 2004, 00:34 (Ref:926904)

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Originally posted by Just Do It!
Archer: Tasman have a pair of Level 1 franchises. Don't lose sight of that. Factions on this forum would also draw issue with your re-absorbtion concept of TKR and TMR too.
Same goes for the Little franchise - in fact, Paul Little would arguably be better placed to ramp up than Craig Gore if it came down to it.

I have never lost sight of the fact that Tasman have a level 1, I believe I could have written my previous post clearer, but I think most people got the jist of it. As for people that would draw issue from my statements about Paul Little and David Thexton, build a bridge! Im only running fictional theories, so Little, David, dont sweat, it was just a discussion along the line of "what would happen if...?"

Having said that I had an employee of TKR tell me months ago that they were certain to have a telecommunications company on board for 04 and I should watch what I say when I said they wouldnt. Well.... nuf said.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Apr 2004, 21:44 (Ref:927885)

You realise of course that the Tasman thing is a rebrand in name only, and that any alleged equity position is ceremonial until $$ actually changes hands....

Tracy · 2 Apr 2004, 23:18 (Ref:927923)

Hi All

Archer, TKR does have a telecommunications company on board for 2004

Just Do It! · 3 Apr 2004, 06:53 (Ref:928103)

Are you saying that no equity has changed hands, GTR? That would go against the largely held theory/belief/understanding by a long shot and stir up a hell of a hornet's nest...!

Hmmmm....!

**GTRMagic** · 3 Apr 2004, 09:48 (Ref:928217)

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Oh, and the transporter is being pulled by a Kenworth prime mover painted in the colours of Greg Murphy Racing....

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Back to the topic, it seems WPS is being frustrated in its attempts at securing an additional franchise by owners who still cant nail down a selling price that is reflective of the current circumstance.

Mark Porter qualified his Hydraulink VX today, prepped by Marty Brant's excellent crew, under the IMS franchise so Mark could race at Pukekohe in a couple of weeks. He did a good job, and will be hoping for a trouble free run both here and the Konica race at Winton shortly so the yellow beast can make it to UnZud

While Phil Scifleet didnt qualify the Bapmobile, and Mr Krause maintains the charade....

Onlooker · 3 Apr 2004, 11:12 (Ref:928313)

Hey GTR explain the bussiness logic in a company that on one hand is seeking to settle an outstanding debt incured by another entity as a result of a no show by a car at a race whilst fielding either an under done driver or car or both to prevent the same thing occuring again,if i were AVESCO I would be pretty ticked off with these teams that continue to make them look like some sort of a toothless tiger or commercial dills?

Just Do It! · 3 Apr 2004, 11:22 (Ref:928337)

The Hydraulink stand will be going off then at Pukekohe.

**GTRMagic** · 3 Apr 2004, 11:30 (Ref:928356)

Quote:

Originally posted by Onlooker
Hey GTR explain the bussiness logic in a company that on one hand is seeking to settle an outstanding debt incured by another entity as a result of a no show by a car at a race whilst fielding either an under done driver or car or both to prevent the same thing occuring again,if i were AVESCO I would be pretty ticked off with these teams that continue to make them look like some sort of a toothless tiger or commercial dills?

I can't... I cannot fathom why it is happening beyond a desire to maximise the price of the L2 franchise in what has to be seen to be a buyers market.

PWR has the advantage of not being on a performance warning from AVESCO, given the franchise was used for part of the year as the Team Brock entity, and did not come in positions 31-35 in the points standings.

So they have another year of life potentially, of bringing a 3rd car along, having qualification issues, either speed or operational practice related, for the car not to run.

Even if they leased it for the relevant franchise appearance fee income the team would be better off!