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Old 22 Dec 2004, 12:13 (Ref:1185817)   #76
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Glen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
The choice is identical for williams and BMW alike - pick the faster driver that will deliver more points! So BMW might want to have a say, but under what circumstances would their say differ from Williams'?
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Old 22 Dec 2004, 12:26 (Ref:1185829)   #77
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I don't think their criteria would be any different, I was only making the point that the PR line that 'it's up to Williams' is nonsensical given BMW's financial risk in the project.

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Old 22 Dec 2004, 17:02 (Ref:1186041)   #78
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If however JB does go to Team Willy in 2006...AP will have to stand down!

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Old 22 Dec 2004, 17:06 (Ref:1186044)   #79
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Supposing AP does a better job than MW.
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Old 22 Dec 2004, 17:43 (Ref:1186078)   #80
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Whoever partners Mark Webber, as a driver pairing it'll be pretty weak compared to that at McLaren...
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Old 22 Dec 2004, 19:33 (Ref:1186144)   #81
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BMW have confirmed he is a signed driver thats all.

Does'nt say if its next to Webber or in the T-car. I think its looking more promising for Nick though.
I think, though, that Williams didn't sign a driver for a reported 5 million Euros (who drove for no pay the season before) just to be a Test Driver. I'm guessing that they liked what they saw at Jerez and are just doing their best not to aggravate Petrobras.

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Old 22 Dec 2004, 21:13 (Ref:1186242)   #82
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Whoever partners Mark Webber, as a driver pairing it'll be pretty weak compared to that at McLaren...
I think Heidfeld and Webber will be an interesting comparison to JPM and Kimi.

The Williams guys are cool, calm and calculating, but still indecently quick. While the McLaren boys are fast, natural and sometimes eratic racers.

Will be a very interesting proposition. Make no mistake though, Webber and Heidfeld have exactly what it takes to take it right up to the McLaren pairing.
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Old 22 Dec 2004, 21:19 (Ref:1186248)   #83
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Supposing AP does a better job than MW.
I will jump into the Yarra and you can splash the filthy water over me.
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Old 22 Dec 2004, 21:54 (Ref:1186283)   #84
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Old 22 Dec 2004, 23:07 (Ref:1186343)   #85
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I don't really buy the 'it's up to Williams' line on drivers.

Put it this way, if you were BMW and had invested the amount of cash they have into Williams on an annual basis, knowing that the choice of driver was a key factor in earning a return on that investment, you would want to have a say in the decision, surely?
Well yes and no. I have no doubt BMW get a say, and that Frank would listen. But I also cant see Frank having anyone 'tell' him who is driving his cars.

Put it this way, if BMW recommended Yoong, do you think we would see him in the car?

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Supposing AP does a better job than MW.
If thats the case, MW is out of a job! (or at least back to the minors).

This is the top level of motorsport, and the top end of the grid. There is no room for drivers that dont/cant deliver. I think Mark will, in spades, but if either of his potential team mates blow him away, he deserves (like anyone else) to be given the boot.

Not gonna happen though
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Old 22 Dec 2004, 23:22 (Ref:1186354)   #86
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I feel Nick would have to be quite a bit slower than AP to not get the seat. BMW want a German in their car. Its like Sato and Honda. If they can get a quick German why would they not race him.
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Maybe to sell more BMW cars in South America?
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