Could Seton to HRT happen??? (Merged) - Page 4

Henry · 8 Feb 2007, 06:30 (Ref:1835997)

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Originally Posted by Razor

To be paired up with his old Godzilla (Nissian Skyline) buddy in a car that is damn quick would be just perfect.

Just to be pedantic, Seto never got a go with Godzilla... the HR31 GTS-R was his last Nissan racecar. Yeah, they were old mates from the earlier Nissan days, and Bo built a Capri or something for Russell (Mark's dad)...

V8RYAN · 10 Feb 2007, 02:14 (Ref:1837824)

it will be great news for HRT if seton doesnt drive.

there is a very good reason why he hasnt had a full time drive for 2 years now... and that is because he has no skill as a race car driver!

peckstar · 10 Feb 2007, 02:18 (Ref:1837825)

well there is a meat head comment if ever i have heard one. one would think that anyone who has won two ATCC has some skill as a race car driver. one would also think that someone who has been on the podium at 3 of the last 4 bathurst may have some skill.

one also thinks that last year he did as many laps in the race as all 4 HRT drivers put together

Senna05 · 10 Feb 2007, 02:23 (Ref:1837826)

I can 100% assure you that Glenn Seton has forgotten more about V8 Supercar and Touring Car racing than you can ever hope to know, mate!

Who was the last owner/driver to win the championship mate?

Not to mention, he beat HRT when they were in the beginning of their purple patch.

The last few years of cars and lack of practise haven't been glamorous butthe man is still quicker than half the pay drivers out there!

V8RYAN · 10 Feb 2007, 02:24 (Ref:1837829)

and even with all those fantastic stats, nobody has given him a full time drive!

hmmmmmmm .. very interesting.

Senna05 · 10 Feb 2007, 02:27 (Ref:1837830)

So, Courtney's a hack cos Jaguar didn't give him a drive?

Schumacher's a hack cos Ferrari forced him out?

There's more to this than people read, and I think it's mostly Glen being happy to spend more time with his family.

People also seem to have short memories......

peckstar · 10 Feb 2007, 02:29 (Ref:1837831)

does he want one, or is he just a bit smarter than some other drivers and know when to call it quits.

V8RYAN · 10 Feb 2007, 02:36 (Ref:1837832)

after he was booted from westpoint he had said many times that he hoped to secure a full time drive for 2006. that never happened, and its never going to happen again.

when was the last time he had a victory? was that before the turn of the new millenium?

even if it wasnt, hes just not as good as poeple think he is

Senna05 · 10 Feb 2007, 02:40 (Ref:1837865)

Congratulations, V8RYAN, you've just described 80% of the V8 field.

Let's sack the lot, shall we?

Rusty didn't win a race in his year of carrying #1. His first.
Skaife hasn't won the championship in 4 years. He's next....

Come on.... get with the program.

V8RYAN · 10 Feb 2007, 02:47 (Ref:1837835)

senna05, incase you missed last years season skaife had numerous race wins, 1 round win and 4 pole positions.

thankfully, thats one great driver that will be around for a long time to come.

peckstar · 10 Feb 2007, 02:49 (Ref:1837837)

actually v8 ryan it was after the turn of the millenium, but only just. but thats often to do with the vehicle that one is driving.

you dont believe me of course, but richo and tander were the same richo had 2 race wins total in 2000 and 2001 then the enxt time was 2005 what changed, suddenly a competitive car.

Tander was the same, no race wins in 2002 ,03, 04 suddenly 2005 comes around and he is in a winning car.

but as i said he had a podium last year and he only raced twice. 50 % per cent success and his other result was a top ten (9th) thats a better average result than just about any other driver last year (includes kelly and lowndes)

STEVO · 10 Feb 2007, 05:08 (Ref:1837854)

Guys don't bother wasting your energy.

Mr Ryan is missing one important point. Glenn Seton WAS offered a fulltime drive in 2006. Britek. Remember? Can your widdle memory stretch that far back?

But Glenn admitted he was tired of driving mid-field cars. He chose NOT to drive with Britek despite their public press releases to get him. Glenn DECLINED.

No skill as a motor racer? Are you for real or a bored kid with access to the PC?

Go away and wasn't this about HRT's launch?

billy bigtime · 11 Feb 2007, 05:08 (Ref:1838441)

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Originally Posted by STEVO

Go away and wasn't this about HRT's launch?

No it wasn't. GS is going to HRT(100% fact) and there's nothing we can do about it.

Madbugger · 13 Feb 2007, 01:37 (Ref:1839913)

All Holdens run a Ford diff anyway, so there will still be a litle bit of Ford in any sucess that GS has.

STEVO · 13 Feb 2007, 01:53 (Ref:1839918)

Yeah but so long as its coloured red and has the name Skaife next to his on the window, it'll always be somewhat of a Holden

Oaksnaf · 13 Feb 2007, 02:16 (Ref:1839923)

Stevo, by the sounds of things you arn't sticking to your signature.

STEVO · 13 Feb 2007, 03:05 (Ref:1839934)

By the sounds of thinds mate, I'm doing the best I can!

I've not turfed him and called him names and disowned him.

I'm in a comfortable denial until its a million percent confirmed and then I have a 6 or 7 months to get used to it before he races.

Am I thrilled? No. But I'm, still here aren't I? So you must forgive me for not being the chirpiest fan right now. I don't think die-hard Lowndes supporters were all that pleased with him during the first few weeks of his defection to Ford.

So cut me some slack, I'll need therapy but I'll get there. . . eventually.

Senna05 · 13 Feb 2007, 03:32 (Ref:1839943)

Stevo -

Mate, just a little info on me. I'm a Holden man through and through. I was conveived in an A9x, raised in a VB/C/L, and learnt to drive in a VR and a Gemimi.

Wanna know my favourite all time drivers? Brock, Skaife (although I'm not proud of his actions sometimes...), Jimmy Richards... and now it gets interesting - Lowndes, Bright, Bargwana and Canto.

I liked Canto and Brighty before they stepped into Holdens, and for Brighty it pains me to see him in a Blue machine. But, for me, it's easy to see that for all those guys they made a move that was beneficial for them.

When Bright won Sandown and Lowndes won Bathurst, I looked at it this way - One of my favourite drivers won a race in a vehicle that only mildly resembles the road version of a car I don't particularly like, but rehardless, my favourite drivers won.

See it as a win for Seto, not for Holden (although I'll see it as one for both! :>)

mmciau · 13 Feb 2007, 04:56 (Ref:1839966)

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Originally Posted by Madbugger

All Holdens run a Ford diff anyway, so there will still be a litle bit of Ford in any sucess that GS has.

Incorrect

The Crown Wheel and Pinion arrangement is cast and machined with very modern materials from drawings of the original Ford 9" arrangement.

The acceptance of the format was the 'robustness' of the design and the efficiency of the "angle of mesh" of the Ford 9" design.

Mike

Madbugger · 13 Feb 2007, 19:33 (Ref:1840641)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmciau

Incorrect

The Crown Wheel and Pinion arrangement is cast and machined with very modern materials based on drawings of the original Ford 9" arrangement.

The acceptance of the format was the 'robustness' of the design and the efficiency of the "angle of mesh" of the Ford 9" design.

Mike

Close enough for me

And IIRC doesn't the holden run a supension setup the same as the ford, not what the road going holden runs? Can't recall whether front of back.

Phase3 · 13 Feb 2007, 19:40 (Ref:1840648)

The comoodores run the Falcon front suspension, or "suspension manufactured from the origional Falcon drawings" whatever floats your boat, but it comes from Ford.......

cavvy · 14 Feb 2007, 09:35 (Ref:1841040)

Its just badge engineering but many can not accept it - a parallel - the 323 & the Meteor YET it produces passion.

Phase3 · 14 Feb 2007, 09:40 (Ref:1841044)

Not sure of your corelation there, or how it applies to the V8 supercircus. Ford owns 33 1/3% of Mazda, hence the badge engineering of which you speak.........

Boxy · 14 Feb 2007, 11:26 (Ref:1841140)

I hope Glenn does get to drive with Skaife. Should be quite a combo if its true. Maybe all his Bathurst bad luck over the years was actually due to driving a Ford! Put him in the General, and voila, instant Bathurst champ!

STEVO · 14 Feb 2007, 22:00 (Ref:1841691)

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Originally Posted by Senna05

Stevo -

Mate, just a little info on me. I'm a Holden man through and through. I was conveived in an A9x, raised in a VB/C/L, and learnt to drive in a VR and a Gemimi.

Wanna know my favourite all time drivers? Brock, Skaife (although I'm not proud of his actions sometimes...), Jimmy Richards... and now it gets interesting - Lowndes, Bright, Bargwana and Canto.

I liked Canto and Brighty before they stepped into Holdens, and for Brighty it pains me to see him in a Blue machine. But, for me, it's easy to see that for all those guys they made a move that was beneficial for them.

When Bright won Sandown and Lowndes won Bathurst, I looked at it this way - One of my favourite drivers won a race in a vehicle that only mildly resembles the road version of a car I don't particularly like, but rehardless, my favourite drivers won.

See it as a win for Seto, not for Holden (although I'll see it as one for both! :>)

Cheers mate. I appreciate the advice. It hasn't been easy, especially now that Bowe is retiring and proclaiming himself a "loyal Ford blue-blood". I just get the feeling FoMoCo will sweep Seton under the rug and ask. . . Glenn who? That's my fear!

But I do appreciate your compassion. As I've said before, just need 6 or 7 months to get used to it.

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