[WEC] Peugeot Sport returning to WEC

[flatlandsman]

The issue is they must have and will be throwing money at it, the driver wage bill must be colossal for a start!

Then they have had to redesign it, and in the real world people are starting to realise that maybe electric is a stop gap and holding onto their ICE cars for a bit longer, so they might need to spend all this money on making bio fuel cars work or hydrogen, racing is a luxury especially when to win they basically need a total fresh start as this has only ever been food once and that was in its old spec!!

[TF110]

In other media (motorsport.com) they are speaking about how they've been treated unfairly with the bop but didn't mention it directly. So they're voicing frustration but skirting the line of mentioning the forbidden word!

[v8supes]

Originally Posted by deggis

Fixed link: https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...y-9x8-program/

Thanks, im always messing it up. Appreciate it.

[kartman24]

They could have had a podium earlier this year but ran out of fuel on the last lap, this is BOP posturing to the ACO on the run up to Le Mans, others will join in over the next couple of weeks...........

[Sodemo]

I honestly don’t understand the BOP at all,(in terms of the decisions made I mean)

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by TF110

In other media (motorsport.com) they are speaking about how they've been treated unfairly with the bop but didn't mention it directly. So they're voicing frustration but skirting the line of mentioning the forbidden word!

I can’t find that article

https://www.motorsport.com/wec/

[TF110]

https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/...-spa/10610878/

[Adam43]

Thank you.

Pierre Fillon is quite clear.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Thank you.

Pierre Fillon is quite clear.

Finot acknowledging that the car is a second faster despite being heavier and less powerful but expecting that it should have the same BoP as the last car is quite delusional. I'm sure Fillon is not amused with the "I'm an engineer so I can talk about kilos and kilowatts" comment. LOL

[PhilipR]

Is there not a rule saying that for a new car/concept they need to run 2 races to establish the BOP? I am not surprised the Peugeot has a conservative BOP to establish the baseline going forward- and any manufacturer new or developing an updated concept need to embrace this 2 race settling in period

I am expecting for Le Mans they will have a better BOP as they had 2 races under the belt now. But this also sounds a bit like what Porsche did last year in the run up to Le Mans and got ACO to change the BOP figures for le mans so this feels like lobbying to me

[Matador]

Originally Posted by PhilipR

Is there not a rule saying that for a new car/concept they need to run 2 races to establish the BOP? I am not surprised the Peugeot has a conservative BOP to establish the baseline going forward- and any manufacturer new or developing an updated concept need to embrace this 2 race settling in period

I am expecting for Le Mans they will have a better BOP as they had 2 races under the belt now. But this also sounds a bit like what Porsche did last year in the run up to Le Mans and got ACO to change the BOP figures for le mans so this feels like lobbying to me

Exactly!!

[deggis]

There's no such rule. Unwritten rule maybe.

Last year's situation was more bizarre as the BoP figures for first races and Le Mans were published beforehand and they were supposed to be frozen until after Le Mans. This was agreed between ACO and all OEMs, but that agreement lasted only three rounds and in the following races the whole idea of freezing the figures was seemingly dropped.

[PhilipR]

Originally Posted by deggis

There's no such rule. Unwritten rule maybe.

Last year's situation was more bizarre as the BoP figures for first races and Le Mans were published beforehand and they were supposed to be frozen until after Le Mans. This was agreed between ACO and all OEMs, but that agreement lasted only three rounds and in the following races the whole idea of freezing the figures was seemingly dropped.

Maybe not written but I remember there being a stipulation that they would not allow a car to compete at Le Mans without at least 2 races under their belt in order to establish the performance parameters and the BOP. And if I remember correctly this is one of the reason the Peugeots debuted at Monza and not Le Mans in 2022 because they could not achieve the 2 race BOP process before Le Mans.

[deggis]

Originally Posted by PhilipR

Maybe not written but I remember there being a stipulation that they would not allow a car to compete at Le Mans without at least 2 races under their belt in order to establish the performance parameters and the BOP. And if I remember correctly this is one of the reason the Peugeots debuted at Monza and not Le Mans in 2022 because they could not achieve the 2 race BOP process before Le Mans.

Yes, but shouldn't be called a rule when it is not in the rulebook. Entries to WEC/LM are up to ACO to accept anyway so in a way there is no need for this to be a written rule.

[Tom908V12]

At last, a better BoP for Peugeot at Le Mans

[Adam43]

Confidence in the new Peugeot: https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...ing-stage.html

Originally Posted by Jean-Eric Vergne

Overall, it’s not a massive change to manage for the driver. (In fact) the car is better balanced with bigger rear wheels and smaller front wheels. It is also more stable in fast corners and faster in the straights. We were experiencing excessive drag last year, top speed was (really) something we were lacking.

Old car sounds rubbish!

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Confidence in the new Peugeot: https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...ing-stage.html



Old car sounds rubbish!

It looked the bees knees though......

[TF110]

i liked the color scheme better than the new one. But I do prefer the winged version slightly. It still looks the most unique of the field.

[flatlandsman]

The car has always looked fabulous to me, I prefer the silver car, this modern thing looks too arty and picky, I love cars that are different, always have, but it needs to start doing well or they will pull the plug. It must have cost tens of millions to redevelop the thing, something no-one else has had to do.

[veeten]

As many of us were saying last year, that the extreme ground effects they designed were a bad idea. It just proved us right, race after race, as the slightest change in racing surfaces would upset the handling and performance of the 9x8. Now, with a more conventional underbody and rear wing/control surfaces, it's more stable and easier to drive, along with the staggered wheel/tire setup. The final piece to this was to dial in the overall weight, and thanks to the BoP Team Peugeot may have just what they needed.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by veeten

As many of us were saying last year, that the extreme ground effects they designed were a bad idea. It just proved us right, race after race, as the slightest change in racing surfaces would upset the handling and performance of the 9x8. Now, with a more conventional underbody and rear wing/control surfaces, it's more stable and easier to drive, along with the staggered wheel/tire setup. The final piece to this was to dial in the overall weight, and thanks to the BoP Team Peugeot may have just what they needed.

We are amazing. I’ve always said that they should have employed us instead of their designers. But no they leave us on this Internet forum. Le idiots.

[Articus]

Very fast on the straights at Le Mans during the test day.

[Gerard C]

May be they target the headlines with a slightly different gearing. They need to do something during this week, many back pages have been bought by PR people.

[joeb]

I'm guessing Peugeot is hoping their new car excels in changing race conditions as their car did last season....

[Plex]

https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-...-in-qualifying

Interesting . Guessing reliability might be the key .