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Old 9 Mar 2009, 18:34 (Ref:2412381)   #1101
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Way too much talk about the damaged tub . Im just happy that after a 13G inpact , Enge is ok !!!

As I said before ..... dont they still have one of last years tubs knocking about ? I assume the B08 & B09 tub is the same ? But It may sound the death bell for the Eastern effort .
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 18:38 (Ref:2412383)   #1102
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didn't one got sold?
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 18:45 (Ref:2412386)   #1103
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Way too much talk about the damaged tub . Im just happy that after a 13G inpact , Enge is ok !!!

As I said before ..... dont they still have one of last years tubs knocking about ? I assume the B08 & B09 tub is the same ? But It may sound the death bell for the Eastern effort .
Hmm, as I posted. Were not the cars from last year owned by Charouz? One of them at Speedy Sebah now and the other already being upgraded with the "AMR body panels to become the Eastern European AMR entry? And if it is owned by Charouz then I doubt it will be the death knell of the effort.


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Old 9 Mar 2009, 18:47 (Ref:2412388)   #1104
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Third car was due to be delivered soon (if not already) i suspect this may be the end of the third cars entry at LM........
hmm, I'll try to be a bit more optimistic!
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 19:33 (Ref:2412420)   #1105
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Hmm, as I posted. Were not the cars from last year owned by Charouz? One of them at Speedy Sebah now and the other already being upgraded with the "AMR body panels to become the Eastern European AMR entry? And if it is owned by Charouz then I doubt it will be the death knell of the effort.


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The AMR Eastern is a new chassis . So there is still one kicking about . But maybe that was last years test hack ?
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 19:39 (Ref:2412427)   #1106
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The AMR Eastern is a new chassis . So there is still one kicking about . But maybe that was last years test hack ?
Hmm, I do not think so.
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 19:54 (Ref:2412436)   #1107
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Oh right ..... I thought there was 3 in build .
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 20:12 (Ref:2412445)   #1108
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No, the 3rd car IS new. Who the buyer was, officially, may not be the same, but the new tub is due to arrive at Banbury in a few days.

What the status of a replacement tub might be, and whether the 2nd Charouz tub from last year is a) in the possession of Charouz or AMR and b) is suitable for build-up into an '09 Lola-Aston are both open questions.
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 20:17 (Ref:2412449)   #1109
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I bet Martin Birrane is adding a few noughts to the invoice for a replacement tub!
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 20:45 (Ref:2412481)   #1110
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I bet that tub can be repaired back at Mr.Birrane's workshops .

Interesting to see if that chassis number ever apears again . What chassis number was it ?
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I bet that tub can be repaired back at Mr.Birrane's workshops .

Interesting to see if that chassis number ever apears again . What chassis number was it ?
Starting a season with a repaired tub? Think a repaired carbon fibre structure is never as good as a new one ...
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Starting a season with a repaired tub? Think a repaired carbon fibre structure is never as good as a new one ...
And i don't believe its allowed!
When the Tub has been crashed once, i don't believe it can be restored to the same safety!
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 21:35 (Ref:2412528)   #1113
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Its allowed when the tub builder approves it, done last year with the Kruse Lola. Depends of course on the damage.
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 21:48 (Ref:2412547)   #1114
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Of course its allowed ..... your hardly going to fork out anything up to 1.3 million that can be bashed into armco and thrown into the bin , are you ?

What happens when a suspension arm punctures a chassis ? ..... Its repaired .

You cut out the damaged section , after approval from the stress boys , and repair it in accordance with an approved drawing , which in this case would come from Lola . It may have to go back to the Lola workshops for a more extensive repair , and autoclave treatment though . Most teams wouldnt have that facility .
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 22:53 (Ref:2412601)   #1115
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Intersport had a tub that was repaired. I don't think it was the one that later broke in half when jacked up. Intersport had a fair few tub repairs
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Old 9 Mar 2009, 22:58 (Ref:2412604)   #1116
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Does there exist a picture of that incident?
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As Badger points out, if it can be done safely, it is done readily. That's really the issue - not every piece of damage done to a tub can be repaired. He should know about repair, since in his profession things have a nasty habit of falling out of the sky if due diligence is not maintained!

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Does there exist a picture of that incident?
I don't think so. It was one of the old MG Lola 675 cars. I'm not sure it was as dramatic as the statement sounds...
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I never saw a photo, it was described, probably on DSC, as a loud crack and it slithered off the jacks.
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as a loud crack and it slithered off the jacks.
LMAO ..... sounds fairly terminal !!! ..... a loud crack .....
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That is a sound, sending the chills thorugh the spines of the poor mechs!
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i know i saw them somewhere, maybe EI, or planet lemans
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That is a sound, sending the chills thorugh the spines of the poor mechs!
That would depend on what kinda crack your talking about Aslak !!!
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Imagine being the driver in that car, and thinking everything is normal, and then it cracks, and thats it!.. It must be terrible!, also for the team owner!.
I would love the see that break on picture or see the incident on video (which probably is impossible)
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Old 10 Mar 2009, 07:45 (Ref:2412779)   #1124
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The Intersport incident happened in pitlane at Infineon Raceway midway through Friday testing in 2004
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I think the Aston Martin badge on the front is a bit cheesy (and not very aerodynamic?). Are they going to put badge on the steering wheel too?
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