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View Poll Results: And the Bathurst winning driving combination will be....
#2: WAU Mustang : Percat/Coulthard 0 0%
#3: BRT Mustang : Hazelwood/Blanchard 1 3.45%
#4: BJR Camaro : Smith/Evans 0 0%
#5: Tickford Mustang : Courtney/Best 0 0%
#6: Tickford Mustang : Waters/Moffat 2 6.90%
#8: BJR Camaro : Heimgartner/Wood 0 0%
#9: Erebus Camaro : Brown/Perkins 1 3.45%
#11: DJR Mustang : De Pasquale/D’Alberto 0 0%
#14: BJR Camaro : Fullwood/Fiore 0 0%
#17: DJR Mustang : Davison/Davison 1 3.45%
#18: T18 Camaro : Winterbottom/Caruso 0 0%
#19: Grove Mustang : Payne/Estre 1 3.45%
#20: T18 Camaro : Pye/Luff 0 0%
#23: PremiAir Camaro : Slade/Webb 0 0%
#25: WAU Mustang : Mostert/Holdsworth 1 3.45%
#26: Grove Mustang : Reynolds/Tander 3 10.34%
#31: PremiAir Camaro : Golding/O’Keeffe 0 0%
#7: BRT Camaro : Love/Kostecki 0 0%
#34: MSR Camaro : Le Brocq/Ojeda 0 0%
#35: MSR Camaro : Hill/Robotham 0 0%
#55: Tickford Mustang : Randle/Jacobson 0 0%
#56: Tickford Mustang : Fraser/Everingham 0 0%
#88: 888 Camaro : Feeney/Whincup 4 13.79%
#96: BJR Camaro : Jones/Boys 0 0%
#97: 888 Camaro : van Gisbergen/Stanaway 7 24.14%
#98: DJR Mustang : De Silvestro/Allen 1 3.45%
#99: Erebus Camaro : Kostecki/Russell 6 20.69%
#888: 888 Camaro : Lowndes/Goddard 1 3.45%
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Old 6 Oct 2023, 08:44 (Ref:4179952)   #101
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And a HAAS often qualifies in the Top Ten in F1, but they chew their tyres up in the race......and fall away from their starting spot.

One lap pace is not in question. It is the pace over a stint that is the concern of the Ford Teams.
When you are watching on the weekend. Get out a laptop and get the live timing, It is on the Supercar site. Watch the race and read the timing. When you get use to it you may find you are reading more of the data than watching the TV. Trust me, it opens up a much bigger world. When all the boring **** is happening, you can see all the gaps changing through the whole field. Sector times, where guys are faster at different points of the track... You will start to see the tyre deg and fuel burn in the timing. If you get the real fancy timing with all the micro sectors, don't starter with that. Too confusing, turn your head inside out, off to bed for a lay down before halfway. Have to have it for the last hour. Maybe you already do?
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Old 6 Oct 2023, 11:04 (Ref:4179970)   #102
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When you are watching on the weekend. Get out a laptop and get the live timing, It is on the Supercar site. Watch the race and read the timing. When you get use to it you may find you are reading more of the data than watching the TV. Trust me, it opens up a much bigger world. When all the boring **** is happening, you can see all the gaps changing through the whole field. Sector times, where guys are faster at different points of the track... You will start to see the tyre deg and fuel burn in the timing. If you get the real fancy timing with all the micro sectors, don't starter with that. Too confusing, turn your head inside out, off to bed for a lay down before halfway. Have to have it for the last hour. Maybe you already do?
Live timing is the goods. I started lap charting at Warwick Farm Tasman races, sitting on the fence in the esses cooking in the sun, because just watching the heroes got boring. Got so just writing the numbers down, no stopwatch, you could see the gaps fluctuate, who was gaining, who was falling back - and pretty soon people were hanging around asking how so-and-so was going.

Fast forward a few decades and the technology has moved on, and you are dead right - watching the live timing you are regularly way ahead of the commentators in picking what is happening. Live timing on the computer, broadcast on the TV, I spend more time watching the computer than the TV, really only watch for the replays.
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Old 6 Oct 2023, 12:45 (Ref:4179982)   #103
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And a HAAS often qualifies in the Top Ten in F1, but they chew their tyres up in the race......and fall away from their starting spot.

One lap pace is not in question. It is the pace over a stint that is the concern of the Ford Teams.
Yep absolutely. Lets see what sunday brings
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 04:52 (Ref:4180116)   #104
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Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
So with tyres seemingly lasting only 16 laps will we see 10 Tyre stops?

They have 13 sets for the weekend!
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 06:00 (Ref:4180117)   #105
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So with tyres seemingly lasting only 16 laps will we see 10 Tyre stops?

They have 13 sets for the weekend!
Could all be pretty fraught! If the tyres do in fact only have 16 laps in them, could work out kinda OK if (& I know it's a big if) the fuel use allows 30-32 lap stints. If nothing else would enable some really varying strategies.

However it goes, we are heading into what feels like one of the least predictable Bathurst races in quite some time.
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 06:03 (Ref:4180118)   #106
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 07:17 (Ref:4180125)   #107
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Crompton has been rebuilt and back in service!

Kostecki very impressive in the shootout.
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 07:52 (Ref:4180126)   #108
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Live timing is the goods. I started lap charting at Warwick Farm Tasman races, sitting on the fence in the esses cooking in the sun, because just watching the heroes got boring. Got so just writing the numbers down, no stopwatch, you could see the gaps fluctuate, who was gaining, who was falling back - and pretty soon people were hanging around asking how so-and-so was going.

Fast forward a few decades and the technology has moved on, and you are dead right - watching the live timing you are regularly way ahead of the commentators in picking what is happening. Live timing on the computer, broadcast on the TV, I spend more time watching the computer than the TV, really only watch for the replays.
Good post, I enjoyed reading your story. And from a member of the order.
I laughed at a couple of your comments, very true. Enjoy tomorrow.
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 07:57 (Ref:4180127)   #109
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Crompton has been rebuilt and back in service
Yay!
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 08:24 (Ref:4180131)   #110
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Really enjoyed that shootout. These cars look great around the mountain, moving around more & all that. Roll in the race!
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 09:33 (Ref:4180133)   #111
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Very nice lap from Mr Kostecki.. 0.5s almost is mega!

It will be a loooooong day tomorrow for some of the cars that don’t look particularly wonderful on track..
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 10:11 (Ref:4180140)   #112
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Very nice lap from Mr Kostecki.. 0.5s almost is mega!

It will be a loooooong day tomorrow for some of the cars that don’t look particularly wonderful on track..
The Chev teams that don't get it right and have a bad day tomorrow, will just have to put a hand up and say, we were not good enough today. The other group already have the excuse ready to go. Nice to see Tander was already getting warmed up on Thursday, for someone who drove one stint before his wheel departed, he seems to know all the in's and out's of both packages without driving a Camaro. By the sounds of it the Camaro's may do the whole race tomorrow on one set of tyres, as the Camaro doesn't seem to suffer tyre deg. Tander's comments on the Camaro's running very heavy Thursday was also interesting, someone must have forgotten to tell the Chev teams to empty their tanks before qualifying. Wait and see.
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 10:40 (Ref:4180142)   #113
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If they do it's an absolute shambles.......
That ship has long sailed.
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Damn that was an electrifying shootout.

Can't believe Payne ended up so far down, so many good laps from so many guys, and few errors.

Really enjoyed Payne and Feeney delivering under pressure, but Brodie's lap was otherworldly.

People have referred to him in eSports circles as an alien.
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Maybe 888 picked the wrong Erebus pilot for 2024…
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Maybe 888 picked the wrong Erebus pilot for 2024…
Strangely enough I thought exactly the same thing after the shoot out.
Kosteki is very much Gisberencesque !!!!
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IM sure we have alllll sunday to hear from him
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Old 7 Oct 2023, 20:59 (Ref:4180288)   #119
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This years fuel load and soft tyre is going to be interesting. Number of safety cars this weekend?
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I hope for a nailbiter
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Old 8 Oct 2023, 00:01 (Ref:4180324)   #122
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Mr Lowndes, 30th start at Bathurst.

Bet JB still has nightmares about that 94 race, and CL move on him.
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Lots of cars using up tyres, not just Fords..
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Utter parity farce.

The data-driven changes were there to fit to make for a tight, even, exciting race. And they were rejected in favour of Camaros driving 10 seconds off into the distance. Utterly absurd.
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