ELMS ELMS (was LMS) 2012 discussion - Page 5

**joeb** · 16 Dec 2011, 13:09 (Ref:3000791)

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Originally Posted by AGD

http://www.motorstv.com/car/enduranc...-le-mans-berth

Couldn't he still be a driver for their WEC car at Le Mans?

NightStalk3r · 16 Dec 2011, 13:32 (Ref:3000802)

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Originally Posted by joeb

And I'll be the 2nd to ask, why? I thought they had 2 Le Mans invites, so 6 possible driver slots.

2 Invites are not much use when you only have the funds to run one car.

Victor_RO · 16 Dec 2011, 13:35 (Ref:3000803)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

2 Invites are not much use when you only have the funds to run one car.

Except for the fact that the team has mentioned that they will take up both their automatic invites from this year.

KA · 16 Dec 2011, 14:31 (Ref:3000823)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Couldn't he still be a driver for their WEC car at Le Mans?

Maybe they have all three seats in that car already tied up but not announced?

**joeb** · 16 Dec 2011, 17:58 (Ref:3000907)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Except for the fact that the team has mentioned that they will take up both their automatic invites from this year.

In this article from Racecar Engineering, Mr Greaves states the following:

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What are Greaves Motorsport’s plans for the 2012 season?
Greaves Motorsport will contest both the FIA World Endurance Championship and the Le Mans Series plus of course the Le Mans 24 Hours, all in the LM P2 class. One car in each and two at the Le Mans 24 Hours. Well, that is the plan.

And while yes, plans can change, I haven't heard anything to say they aren't running in the WEC and having 2 cars at Le Mans.

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Originally Posted by KA

Maybe they have all three seats in that car already tied up but not announced?

That is a possibility. they may have 3 drivers in their WEC car already.

19dodge · 16 Dec 2011, 18:43 (Ref:3000927)

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Originally Posted by joeb

In this article from Racecar Engineering, Mr Greaves states the following:

And while yes, plans can change, I haven't heard anything to say they aren't running in the WEC and having 2 cars at Le Mans.

That is a possibility. they may have 3 drivers in their WEC car already.

They have all 3 WEC drivers confirmed. Just not announced yet.

**joeb** · 16 Dec 2011, 20:34 (Ref:3000973)

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Originally Posted by 19dodge

They have all 3 WEC drivers confirmed. Just not announced yet.

Thanks, that clears that up! Hopefully Mr. Kimber-Smith finds a ride at Le Mans with somebody.

cmk · 16 Dec 2011, 22:09 (Ref:3001014)

Sad that TK-S seems to be getting the boot for Blundell, unless there are driver classification differences between the two I know which one I'd go for on potential pace (and it's not the one who's friends with the rest of the driving squad). I don't think Blundell has the edge anymore as he was not up to the other MB's pace at Daytona last year, nor to his fitness.

The Badger · 16 Dec 2011, 23:45 (Ref:3001043)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Thanks, that clears that up! Hopefully Mr. Kimber-Smith finds a ride at Le Mans with somebody.

Might be a spare seat at Strakka if they run a P2 HPD ?

The Badger · 16 Dec 2011, 23:47 (Ref:3001044)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Sad that TK-S seems to be getting the boot for Blundell, unless there are driver classification differences between the two I know which one I'd go for on potential pace (and it's not the one who's friends with the rest of the driving squad). I don't think Blundell has the edge anymore as he was not up to the other MB's pace at Daytona last year, nor to his fitness.

So it will be Brundle-Blundell-Brundle ? .............

.............. great crew , but a real tongue twister !!!

AGD · 17 Dec 2011, 01:01 (Ref:3001065)

Speaking of the Brundles, I wonder if Martin is on Robin's Christmas card list this year! Also, any truth to the rumor that Jimmy Bly is the reserve driver for the Brundle-Blundell car?

DeathOrGlory · 17 Dec 2011, 01:55 (Ref:3001075)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Speaking of the Brundles, I wonder if Martin is on Robin's Christmas card list this year! Also, any truth to the rumor that Jimmy Bly is the reserve driver for the Brundle-Blundell car?

I hear Brandenburg, Dangerfield, and Tanto are also available.

AGD · 17 Dec 2011, 03:01 (Ref:3001082)

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Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

I hear Brandenburg, Dangerfield, and Tanto are also available.

Memo Moreno is signed to drive the Muscle Milk LMPC in the ALMS. Well, something like that at least.

Consider yourself lucky if you have no idea what we are talking about.

In other news, the ELMS has a new logo. You better make sure your sock tethers are attached before looking at it.

cmk · 17 Dec 2011, 04:46 (Ref:3001091)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

So it will be Brundle-Blundell-Brundle ? .............

.............. great crew , but a real tongue twister !!!

Brundell Bros. and Son?

AndrewF31 · 17 Dec 2011, 09:26 (Ref:3001123)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Memo Moreno is signed to drive the Muscle Milk LMPC in the ALMS. Well, something like that at least.

Consider yourself lucky if you have no idea what we are talking about.

In other news, the ELMS has a new logo. You better make sure your sock tethers are attached before looking at it.

Memo is Roberto, right?
This guy was great in IndyCars.

I just googled it and have no idea what the hell it is now. Seems like a fictional character...

I never believed Roberto actually signed for Muscle Milk :P

The Badger · 17 Dec 2011, 11:19 (Ref:3001166)

I thought the Memo involved , was Gidley ?

Purist · 17 Dec 2011, 14:57 (Ref:3001232)

It's references to the movie "Driven", so there.

NaBUru38 · 17 Dec 2011, 23:33 (Ref:3001395)

:P

AGD · 18 Dec 2011, 03:58 (Ref:3001437)

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Originally Posted by Purist

It's references to the movie "Driven", so there.

I see that some here are unfamiliar with CART's version of Le Mans! The main character of Driven, Jimmy Bly, drove Mark Blundell's car and had the same helmet with JB on it instead of MB. There was also the Memo Moreno character, an odd mixture of Muscle Milk's Memo Gidley and Roberto Moreno.

But, yes, you can't call yourself a motorsports fan if you have not seen Driven. The list of things Driven has taught us: an OW car will go flying wildly if it hits a tire barrier squarely while going 20 mph (well maybe an IRL Dallara will), that cars flying into water is normal, that wheels can fly off cars and hit people with no damage, that show car Indycars have engines, fuel, and on-board starters, and that professional photographers take pictures with just their SLR body and no lens. I stay up at night sometimes wondering why Driven did not win an Oscar. How could it be? How could it be?

FordCosworthPanoz · 18 Dec 2011, 04:38 (Ref:3001440)

If you still have no clue what AGD is talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTxf1qaLbfY

rich07 · 18 Dec 2011, 08:21 (Ref:3001465)

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Originally Posted by AGD

I see that some here are unfamiliar with CART's version of Le Mans!

Woah! Lets not say things we cannot take back here

. Driven was a pile of garbage in all parts whereas Le Mans was damn good even if all of us didnt follow the storyline (there was one?

)

Driven without the storyline and Rambo would've been still the pile of garbage whereas Le Mans could've been even as good story or no story. Its that movie that made me wish I was born thirty years earlier so I couldve been there to witness such wonderful machines such as the 917 in their era.

AGD · 18 Dec 2011, 10:21 (Ref:3001486)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Woah! Lets not say things we cannot take back here

. Driven was a pile of garbage in all parts whereas Le Mans was damn good even if all of us didnt follow the storyline (there was one?

)

No worries, I wasn't insulting Le Mans. By saying that Driven was the "CART version" of Le Mans, what I was basically saying was that Driven should have and could have been as good as Le Mans, but it turned out to be massively crappy to almost comedic levels! Driven was so bad, I'd almost rather see a Bill Cosby movie instead of it. Almost. As the clip FCP linked shows, the interpretations of racing that Driven showed are so bad that it is funny in a way.

JAG · 20 Dec 2011, 19:35 (Ref:3002389)

https://twitter.com/#!/dsceuroeditor

40 cars expected, Le Mans entries for top two in P2, GTE-Pro, GTE-Am.

lms · 20 Dec 2011, 19:55 (Ref:3002395)

so, if the 2013 Le Mans is the target for a team, they shouldnt choose lmpc or gtc. I hope this and other factors will lead to a decline in those classes in lms, and hope for a killer fight in lmp2 with many entries

(I thought the top lmpc team(s) could race at le mans in lmp2.....)

Deleted · 20 Dec 2011, 19:57 (Ref:3002396)

No way in hell they're gonna get 40 full-season entries (unless there's sudden massive level of interest in GTE and GTC), and even with partial entries they're lucky to reach that figure, I'd think.

That 20 car minimun got me worried.

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