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I'm upset that the season will start later, but obviously there are more important things going on in Italy, and as a consolation a race at Imola will be spectacular and I'm already very much looking forward to that. I also like Barcelona as an endurance track so that works out well.
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Hopefully Silverstone goes ahead as the virus has only just started in the uk and as in other countries takes months to get better.
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glad they’ve made the decision early and not fannied around like f1 has done. big shame to lose monza entirely though
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9 Mar 2020, 17:10 (Ref:3962549) | #104 | ||
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Huge shame that Monza is gone but i think its the only decision that could be taken. Looking forward to the Imola sprint round though, should be really good.
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I suppose I just don't get the excitement with either Imola or Barcelona.
Imola is better in some ways, without the Variente Bassa for cars, but I wish they'd kept the nice, sweeping feel of the front stretch, rather than realigning it with those couple of more abrupt kinks. And with that pronounced kink after the pits, it's always been iffy whether you could overtake into the first chicane. Sorry, but the chicanes that people say are never going away are the exact ones that have to go if Imola is ever to be properly "fixed" again. As for Barcelona, why can't the GT cars just run the 2003 F1 layout? You get a slightly longer back stretch with a more flowing corner after. You also lose that bloody chicane between the final two turns. So the track isn't only faster, but you get more multi-line corners, and the cars are markedly less spread out due to the accordion effect as they release onto the front straight. (Shoot, if it's acceptable for GT3s to run at Bathurst or the Nordschleife, this should be a non-issue.) I guess, partly, I'm wondering why they couldn't reschedule it at Monza if it's several months out. By that point, either it'll be as okay as it's going to be for quite some time, or all of Italy is going to be off-limits, so it won't matter where they tried to put it. I'd have taken Mugello or Vallelunga over Imola, but if they were going with this set of venues, just keep Barcelona as a sprint round and have the final enduro at Imola. And as far as Spain goes, for a sprint round, I'd take Jarama over any other option, unless they were going to run the motorcycle layout at Jerez. Last edited by Purist; 9 Mar 2020 at 18:11. |
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Barcelona and Imola are tracks with which SRO have established relationships and commercial arrangements, making them easier choices than going to a whole new track at very short notice.
SRO’s contingency planning and decisiveness here are exemplary, IMO, in contrast to ELMS, who are still pumping out social media fluff about Barcelona on 5th April and Monza on 10th May. BA just cancelled my flights to and from Milan that weekend and the entire region is under quarantine. I’ll eat my camera if that race goes ahead as planned. |
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It seems a bit odd that Imola would be in that position, as FIA GT hasn't been there since 2005.
And those abrupt kinks I mentioned on the front stretch appear to have been contributors to more than one serious GT incident since the circuit reopened in 2008. A prime example of that would be what happened with Marcel Tiemann. As for the ELMS, I would think Spain is better prepared than Italy, but we'll see. A lot can happen in two months, but yes, Monza in May seems optimistic, to say the least. Who knows. Maybe that series has some more complicated contractual issues to sort out, plus there are fewer circuits that can support the multi-class stuff, especially compared to a sprint GT event. I just hope things have sufficiently settled that the WEC's return to Monza can happen. I'm also probably additionally irritated because I don't really have another sport I can follow nearly as readily as a fallback to stay occupied. So if events/seasons get cancelled, there's that, but I also worry about, like I said in the F1 thread, habits getting broken/changed, and then stuff just simply doesn't come back afterward at all. |
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12 Mar 2020, 09:45 (Ref:3963324) | #109 | |
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Lots of news today for GTWC including a third R Mororsport car, and extra Bentley, and Toksport WRT... but with the full season entry lists due to be announced later today, might as well wait for that!
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Crikey, like you said earlier, looks like it might be another huge entry!
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12 Mar 2020, 10:42 (Ref:3963353) | #111 | ||
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I'm just hoping any of it actually happens! Tickets for Brands at the start of May, but who knows what the world will look like by then. First time I've been able to get to a race for years without it clashing with my own racing (which should be kicking off next week, but again... sigh).
Looks like a good year though potentially, if it all goes ahead. Would have been nice to see a McLaren in Sprint, but it's hardly bad as it is. |
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So here represents my best guess, lets see how it compares to the entry list released later.
24 Sprint, 52 Endurance, with a few more question marks over ROWE, 2 Seas, etc Sprint - 24 cars AKKA-ASP - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Jim Pla / Benjamin Hites AKKA-ASP - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Raffaele Marcello / Timur Boguslavskiy Attempto Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA Attempto Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA Black Falcon - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Luca Stolz / Maro Engel Black Falcon - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Finlay Hutchison / TBA Classic and Modern Racing - Bentley Continental GT3 - Pierre-Alexandre Jean / Erwin Creed Classic and Modern Racing - Bentley Continental GT3 - Jules Gounon / Nelson Panciatici Dinamic Motorsport - Porsche 911 GT3 R - TBA / TBA Emil Frey Racing - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Albert Costa / Giacomo Altoe Emil Frey Racing - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Norbert Siedler / Mikael Grenier GetSpeed Performance - Mercedes AMG GT3 - TBA / TBA Madpanda Motorsport - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Ezequiel Perez Companc / TBA Panis Racing - Lexus RC-F GT3 - Thomas Neubauer / Aurelien Panis R-Motorsport - Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - Tom Blomqvist / Luca Ghiotto R-Motorsport - Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - James Pull / TBA Rinaldi Racing - Ferrari 488 GT3 - Rinat Salikhov / David Perel Sainteloc Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Christopher Haase / TBA Sainteloc Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Markus Winklehock / TBA Sainteloc Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Dries Vanthoor / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA Endurance - 52 cars 59 Racing - Mclaren 720s GT3 - TBA / TBA / TBA AF Corse - Ferrari 488 GT3 - Andrea Bertolini / Mouis Machiels / Niek Hommerson AKKA-ASP - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Jim Pla / Jean-Luc Beaubelique / Fabien Barthez AKKA-ASP - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Raffaele Marcello / Felipe Fraga / Timur Boguslavskiy AKKA-ASP - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Arno Santamato / Benjamin Hites / Lucas Legeret Attempto Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Mattia Drudi / Frederic Vervisch / TBA Attempto Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA / TBA Barwell Motorsport - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 Evo - Leo Machitski / Richard Heistand / Adrian Amstutz Barwell Motorsport - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 Evo - Stephane Tribaudini / Erwin Creed / Romani Ricci Black Falcon - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Luca Stolz / Maro Engel / Vincent Abril Black Falcon - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Sergei Afanasiev / Patrick Assenheimer / Hubert Haupt Boston Ginion Racing - BMW M6 GT3 - Karim Ojjeh / Jens Klingmann / Gilles Vannelet Classic and Modern Racing - Bentley Continental GT3 - Pierre-Alexandre Jean / Seb Morris / Arjun Maini Classic and Modern Racing - Bentley Continental GT3 - Romano Ricci / Erwin Creed / Stephane Tribaudini Dinamic Motorsport - Porsche 911 GT3 R - Christian Engelhard / Matteo Cairoli / Sven Muller Dinamic Motorsport - Porsche 911 GT3 R - Roberto Pampanini / Mauro Calamia / Ivan Jacoma Dinamic Motorsport - Porsche 911 GT3 R - Andrea Rizzoli / Mikkel Overgaard Pedersen / TBA Emil Frey Racing - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Albert Costa / Giacomo Altoe / Franck Perera Emil Frey Racing - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Norbert Siedler / Mikael Grenier / Ricardo Feller FFF Racing Team - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Andrea Caldarelli / Dennis Lind / Marco Mapelli FFF Racing Team - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Hiroshi Hamaguchi / Phil Keen / TBA FFF Racing Team - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Taylor Proto / Florian Latorre / Baptiste Moulin GetSpeed Performance - Mercedes AMG GT3 - TBA / TBA / TBA GPX Racing - Porsche 911 GT3 R - Romain Dumas / Thomas Preining / Dennis Olsen GPX Racing - Porsche 911 GT3 R - Patrick Pilet / Mathieu Jaminet / Matt Campbell HTP Winward Motorsport - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Indy Dontje / Bryce Ward / Philip Ellis Jenson Team Rocket RJN - Mclaren 720s GT3 - Crhis Buncombe / James Baldwin / TBA K-Pax Racing - Bentley Continental GT3 - Maxime Soulet / Jules Gounon / Rodrigo Baptista K-Pax Racing - Bentley Continental GT3 - Alvaro Parente / Andy Soucek / Jordan Pepper Madpanda Motorsport - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Ezequiel Perez Companc / TBA / TBA Optimum Motorsport - Mclaren 720s GT3 - Rob Bell / Joe Osborne / Ollie Wilkinson Optimum Motorsport - Mclaren 720s GT3 - Martin Berry / Nick Foster / Yasser Shahin Panis Racing - Lexus RC-F GT3 - Thomas Neubauer / Aurelien Panis / Timothe Buret R-Motorsport - Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - Jake Dennis / Daniel Juncadella / Ricky Collard R-Motorsport - Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - James Pull / Hugo de Sadeleer / Max Hofer R-Motorsport - Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - Tom Blomqvist / Luca Ghiotto / Marvin Kirchofer Rinaldi Racing - Ferrari 488 GT3 - Daniel Keilwitz / Pierre Ehret / Rino Mastronardi Rinaldi Racing - Ferrari 488 GT3 - Rinat Salikhov / David Perel / Patrick Kujala Reno Racing - Honda NSX GT3 - Jens Reno Moller / TBA / TBA Sainteloc Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Christopher Haase / TBA / TBA Sainteloc Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Markus Winklehock / TBA / TBA Sainteloc Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA / TBA SPS Automotive - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Manuel Lauck / Christian Hook / Florian Scholze SPS Automotive - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Dominik Baumann / Valentin Pierburg / TBA SVC Sport Management - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 - Cedric Mezard / Steve Hisse / TBA Team Parker Racing - Bentley Continental GT3 - Euan McKay / Frank Bird / Nicolai Kjaergaard (Bentley Young Driver Lineup) Toksport WRT - Mercedes AMG GT3 - Philip Hamprecht / Oscar Tunjo / Juuso Puakka TF Sport - Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - TBA / TBA / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Benjamin Goethe / Stuart Hall / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Dries Vanthoor / TBA / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA / TBA WRT - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - TBA / TBA / TBA BMW??? 2 Seas Motorsport??? 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Entry list looks great as always. Let's hope for a great season of racing. Guess I'll watch the Sprint Cup too this year.
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Wow, that's a great entry, and really pleased to see Sprint Cup back up in to the 30s. That's going to be brutal around Brands, can't wait!
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12 Mar 2020, 16:55 (Ref:3963497) | #117 | ||
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So plans are being made for cancellations potentially up to June - https://www.gt-world-challenge-europe.com/news/1731
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I know it was probably an obvious outcome but the Brands Hatch & Silverstone rounds are now postponed/cancelled. Not official from SRO as of yet but Motorsport UK have decided to suspend all permits until 30th June.
https://www.motorsportuk.org/motorsp...-to-30th-june/ |
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Confirmed that Brands Hatch & Silverstone are cancelled. https://www.gt-world-challenge-europ...-rounds-update
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R Motorsport have said they are now focusing on 2021... So may not show for what ever 2020 season we do get
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Everybody is used to R-Motorsport promises and deliveries. The real things haven't changed. It is still best to be honest and truthful from the start; to make the most of what we have; to be happy with simple pleasures; and have courage when things go wrong. DTM fans are still expect them to show up in the grid with "their" Astons.
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Who knows when (and if) we are going racing again this year. Expect other teams to do the same if the situation around the world doesn't improve.
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