2011 Formula Pacific (nee BMW) off season - Page 5

**bella** · 3 Feb 2011, 13:49 (Ref:2825097)

is there an alternative aside from either looking at the states or europe to start your career though?

engbmw · 4 Feb 2011, 06:07 (Ref:2825486)

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Originally Posted by speedkills

Why would anyone want to spend obscene money to run this defunct class now? They could barely get any drivers when BMW gave a stuff. What advantage is there in racing this class now especially with some of the obscene money teams are charging to race a car that is usually very reliable and virtually bullet proof without major maintenance requirements.

Besides this - who will keep an eye on the cheats now. It was already virtually uncontrolled - what is it going tocost to race with one of these cheat teams in the future. And then who is really going to take any notice.

Just like most juniorf formulae - its just a business and they dont really give a toss about any of the kids futures

speedkills !
are we again into rude talking ?
your mentioned cheating was found and punished, here in Asia as well as in Europe and by now even here the Team watching carefully what is going on and requesting action from the Scrutineers.
That the ex-FBMW is a Maintenance free car is a fairy tale par Excellence.
if you want to be competitive you have to do a lot of work as with any Race car.
if the renamed series is so bad, why is interest from Drivers so high?
there is no other car to learn racing in its basic form.
all other Formulas have paddle shift, high torque engines, big brakes and sticky tyres, what you learn from these ? the boys out of these comfort series very quickly loose their Illusions when they come to hardcore racing and find themselve on the back of the Grid. or they must do more season at very high cost to learn again.
just compare how many driver from ex-FBMW gone to the Top and how many that started with higher series straight away made it?
so please before open mouth, switch on brain !
Happy chinese new Year to everyone

bothfeetin · 4 Feb 2011, 06:34 (Ref:2825489)

well...engbmw....keep your shirt on before losing it! Speedkills has some valid points...one of them is that really there is not as of today...a series...yes I know..lots of words and promises!

Prices...another good point there...FBMW tried to curb it to E140,000 or so...now the entry fee, tire prices, unlimited testing...all is climbing, so I heard. Scrutineering...let's see who is doing it and what.... and so on!

To combat all the bad rumours about this series the organizers should have come out in late 2010 announcing a prov. calendar; make real statements with some beef on it and not camouflage their names here...like we, the rest of us, all do!

So let's recap - to be fair to all, including the teams sticking with the new series;
As far as I know -
the final series announcement;
the new regulations;
the new and old personnel for admin and technical; And
the FINAL version of race dates.
All will be announced this week - so also said sequentialbox !

Today - it's Friday in Asia and Chinese New Year celebration - don't think it will happen.

All teams are still with the F Pacific? Heard 2 had to go - ran out of money and time! But there are still 5 more teams - big ones too!
Atlantic - not sure why they announced their driver - must have some pressure from Bernie of Asia to do some "good"!

**chunterer** · 4 Feb 2011, 07:59 (Ref:2825503)

Right Ok!

Can posters please refrain from either winding each other up or passing remarks on the open forum otherwise we will close the thread.

Warning to all!

Play nice whatever your viewpoints!

Thanks

chunterer

Monkey Head · 4 Feb 2011, 14:10 (Ref:2825681)

Pasin Lanthouras has signed with eurasia

Juntos · 4 Feb 2011, 16:15 (Ref:2825754)

Cock-and-bull stories.

Who is leaving F Pacific bothfeetin? Eurasia, Eurointernational, Petronas, Meritus, Atlantic, IM Racing, E-Rain, or Asia Racing Team?

engbmw · 5 Feb 2011, 00:37 (Ref:2825984)

from Monday 7th there will be 3 Testdays at Sepang.
so lets have a look who is there and who is driving what car.
if a Team quits they will not Test anymore, or just go for the money, maybe.
hopefully all speculations come to end after these Test days !

Lam Pak · 6 Feb 2011, 13:53 (Ref:2826601)

teams are leving cause dont trust in new promoter. many teams in finance difficult too in formula bmw pacific b4.

Monkey Head · 8 Feb 2011, 13:41 (Ref:2827766)

the latest speculation of the series is about tyres.New sole supplier is a korean company.Conflicted with remoured title sponse?well.....

Juntos · 10 Feb 2011, 02:54 (Ref:2828861)

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February Tests Continues for Formula Pacific Teams Meritus Racing, IM Racing, Atlantic Racing Team, Eurasia Motorsport, Petronas Mofaz Racing and E-Rain Racing were all at Sepang International Circuit for a three day test that ended Wednesday, 9th February. The teams brought with them a total of 17 drivers, including a 13-year old Japanese driver, who is looking to compete in the 2012 season. He is being trained by former Formula BMW Asia driver, Ryuichi Nara with E-Rain Racing. Teams spent the first day of testing mainly concentrating on shakedowns for newly acquired cars or letting their confirmed drivers acclimatise themselves. IM Racing had with them Malaysian driver, Chang Mun Shien who will continue to compete with them this season. Also seen with the team was Carlo Van Dam the 2008 Japanese Formula 3 Champion who was on hand to help with the team’s shakedown. Atlantic Racing Team continued their session with recently confirmed driver, Jimmy Attunes. They will alternate test sessions between Sepang and Zhuhai International Circuit to give their driver a change of scenery and conditions. The team that helped groom Gabriel Chaves, was quick to point out the talent of their driver, his focus and determination coming into the start of the season. Meritus Racing and Petronas Mofaz Racing were there with four drivers each, giving track time for potential and confirmed drivers. Both teams still have not confirmed their driver’s lineup for the 2011 Season and will be making their announcements at a later date. Eurasia Motorsport were present at the test with four Nismo Development Drivers along with Nismo’s driver trainers to get some track time with the team. David Zhu, a former Formula BMW Asia driver was there as part of the Nismo program alongside three Japanese drivers. Natasha Seatter, who was with Petronas Mofaz Racing last year, was also at the test with Eurasia Motorsport. The next scheduled 4-day test is planned for 28th Feb to March 3rd. in www.afos.com

First & Ace news!!!

bothfeetin · 11 Feb 2011, 06:25 (Ref:2829485)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

Cock-and-bull stories.
Who is leaving F Pacific bothfeetin? Eurasia, Eurointernational, Petronas, Meritus, Atlantic, IM Racing, E-Rain, or Asia Racing Team?

engbmw ...... from Monday 7th there will be 3 Testdays at Sepang.
so lets have a look who is there and who is driving what car.
if a Team quits they will not Test anymore, or just go for the money, maybe.
hopefully all speculations come to end after these Test days !
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Here is the answer:

Juntos wrote: Meritus Racing, IM Racing, Atlantic Racing Team, Eurasia Motorsport, Petronas Mofaz Racing and E-Rain Racing were all at Sepang International Circuit

Don't want to be barred by Chunterer...so I just copy from other forum contributors....then...who is missing? EuroInternational, ART, AOS, Alla Fonte, DAMS, Motaworld....
6 teams were not there....and all I said was that 2 teams have been quitting...I was wrong, sorry!

I certainly hope this is NOT an indicator..as many teams also cannot test for their timing or the driver's financial/personal reasons!

Tests in Asia do not indicate the interest level full time series drivers; it means that many teams have a cash flow source to bring them over the dull season. Regardless of how little they may charge - there is cash coming in! And herein starts the problem....

How many of the February drivers tested and will sign for the season?
When teams think that to be on the top of the time sheets equate to filling their season seats....then yes...they are right by "hiring" drivers from other series to drive their cars in testing and making the real serious junior driving contenders look like fools on the bottom of the time sheets.
Can somebody shine their light on who was driving for whom and if these driver(s) have (are) signing for the season?

It becomes more and more apparent to me that this, and not only the Asian Motorsport society, is like a seriously dysfunctional family as otherwise...why would teams financially ruin themselves slowly and taking other teams down too by giving away test drives for a song rather than charging a fair and appropriate fee? We all are "Professionals" like Lawyers and Doctors....none of them giving away their services below their actual incurred costs! But the teams do it...not once but continuous and then complaining not having money to survive (and giving away more rides below cost to get cash flow, again!).

bothfeetin · 11 Feb 2011, 09:59 (Ref:2829552)

Tell's the story:
http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/motors...ionship-28118/

**bella** · 11 Feb 2011, 12:19 (Ref:2829596)

here's the full press release: http://tentenths.com/news/showentry.php?e=1585

**chunterer** · 11 Feb 2011, 12:25 (Ref:2829600)

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Originally Posted by bothfeetin

Don't want to be barred by Chunterer...so I just copy from other forum contributors....then...who is missing? EuroInternational, ART, AOS, Alla Fonte, DAMS, Motaworld....
6 teams were not there....and all I said was that 2 teams have been quitting...I was wrong, sorry!.

Um, you won't be barred for posts like this one where you clearly are fostering debate and asking genuine question bothfeetin!

There is no problem with open discussion relative to the thread.

Monkey Head · 11 Feb 2011, 14:47 (Ref:2829682)

Race dates is as follows:
http://www.afos.com/index.php?option...105&Itemid=168

Juntos · 13 Feb 2011, 07:20 (Ref:2830423)

JK Racing Asia Series. It sounds bad...wear a long tunic, sandals, jewelry and a turban.

bothfeetin · 13 Feb 2011, 12:35 (Ref:2830534)

Ha....good one! Yes, the name selection is somewhat poor. Seems that there were many egos at work to please themselves first and then see how the teams can sell it to drivers and their sponsors. But in typical style...who gives a damn about that?

On the positive side of things - there is a definite and definable open wheel series now for sure.

Turbans etc....welcome to Asia..one has to live with it or better go home, wherever that might be. Nothing to do with racing! Bet you that all drivers would like to be in the car owned by "Force India"!

sequentialbox · 14 Feb 2011, 14:27 (Ref:2831027)

10 cars were testing in Sepang today, Meritus, Eurasia, Im Racing and E rain

Lam Pak · 15 Feb 2011, 11:59 (Ref:2831523)

somes teams mssing: eurointernational, atlantic and others.

if they race on indian tires i know one team of macau wont race. they are michelin babies.

engbmw · 18 Feb 2011, 06:25 (Ref:2833144)

sorry to hear that Lam Pak,
but they all been Michelin Babies, so now new Tyres, new challenge !
its going to be very interesting, because by tyre size and Tyre data it looks that Setup will be quite a bit different to the Michelin Tyres.
so come on all, we are here for the CHALLENGE and the Money !
lets make a good competition, the closer the Laptimes are the better, so we will have exciting racing, thats what the Fan want to see !!
see you on 28th !! (hope that Tyres arrived by then)

Monkey Head · 19 Feb 2011, 10:41 (Ref:2833697)

Two more drivers confirmed at defending champion team Eurasia....they are Duvashen PADAYACHEE and Natasha Seater.

Fucithalmic · 19 Feb 2011, 11:07 (Ref:2833710)

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Originally Posted by Monkey Head

Two more drivers confirmed at defending champion team Eurasia....they are Duvashen PADAYACHEE and Natasha Seater.

Eurasia was consistently at the top of the time sheets but not with Duvashen / Natasha but with Jap drivers. Are they entering the series too? Anorther team that impress was ImRacing with consistent top 5 placing throughout the sessions. Not bad for a young team. Nice new livery color too. Anyone any idea what happened to Mofaz's new sister team? So much speculation but not seen? Anorther driver to watch is Akash from India-Meritus, pretty quick.

Juntos · 19 Feb 2011, 17:20 (Ref:2833854)

G'day! The Alla Fonte boys did their best but Mofaz operator released them to Formula Abarth China. The speculation will end on its own when the truth comes out.

Legendary Meritus racing deemed too quiet. Akash Gouda is fruit of relationship between "The Thief" and Armaan Ebrahim's Papa. They say India raids funds to save Meritus.

Monkey Head · 20 Feb 2011, 08:33 (Ref:2834109)

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Originally Posted by Fucithalmic

Eurasia was consistently at the top of the time sheets but not with Duvashen / Natasha but with Jap drivers. Are they entering the series too? Anorther team that impress was ImRacing with consistent top 5 placing throughout the sessions. Not bad for a young team. Nice new livery color too. Anyone any idea what happened to Mofaz's new sister team? So much speculation but not seen? Anorther driver to watch is Akash from India-Meritus, pretty quick.

Japanese drivers are paid by Nissan and they test there as new season preparation for Formula Challenge Japan.May be they will join blue ribband evenes of the series

bothfeetin · 20 Feb 2011, 15:15 (Ref:2834233)

Huh? Natasha to the Champion team Eurasia? Good luck Natasha and keep your head high!

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