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Old 28 Sep 2007, 09:08 (Ref:2024966)   #101
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I don't think there's any question about it being an embarassment- it already is...

Is there any prospect of picking up some local entries- even if it takes running an 'Invitation' class for local cars that aren't ACO-legal....?
the only hope is to grab the Brazilian GT3 field that will be there
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 11:26 (Ref:2025047)   #102
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Farnbacher confirmed as well
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 13:09 (Ref:2025124)   #103
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Farnbacher confirmed as well
........which makes 14.

I'd like to find something constructive to say about this, but I'm floundering.
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 13:12 (Ref:2025125)   #104
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6 more confirmations and we have a F1-size field what about that ???
or better even: we have a bigger grid than F1 at Indy 2005!!!!
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 13:56 (Ref:2025159)   #105
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F1 is one class, remember. This race has got to be cancelled; its a joke.
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 16:26 (Ref:2025252)   #106
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This race has got to be cancelled; its a joke.
I totally agree... who had such a stupid idea on going to interlagos??? Wouldn't be more wise to do 1 or 2 more European races?? There is a lot of European circuits, ex F1-circuits, available and needed...
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 03:50 (Ref:2025497)   #107
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I totally agree... who had such a stupid idea on going to interlagos??? Wouldn't be more wise to do 1 or 2 more European races?? There is a lot of European circuits, ex F1-circuits, available and needed...
why don't you think about lmes wants to spreds their wing in racings, just fiagt is doing now!!!??

just look this round from fiagt this year...

how many races there were out of europeans countries???

i know i could be a mistake a race here, but there are so many races in europe right!!!!! i guess lmes is thinking about this, not about s something else...
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 04:23 (Ref:2025503)   #108
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I totally agree... who had such a stupid idea on going to interlagos??? Wouldn't be more wise to do 1 or 2 more European races?? There is a lot of European circuits, ex F1-circuits, available and needed...
Mssr. Ratel's idea... after he had an agreement to run at Interlagos, and the FIA GT teams said no... he was kind of stuck, and forced it on the LMS.
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 04:30 (Ref:2025507)   #109
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Has Larbre announced if they are going? You'd think a semi-factory backed squad would be able to fund it.
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 07:16 (Ref:2025551)   #110
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Mssr. Ratel's idea... after he had an agreement to run at Interlagos, and the FIA GT teams said no... he was kind of stuck, and forced it on the LMS.
So is SRO bigger than the ACO? Apart from the fact hes got the FIA backing what gave him the right to force the ACO to take this date?
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 07:35 (Ref:2025553)   #111
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Err...the Le Mans Series is not run by the ACO. It's Patrick Peter's organisation who runs it under ACO regulations, kinda like the ALMS. (how many times does this return?)

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Old 29 Sep 2007, 07:57 (Ref:2025563)   #112
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Err...the Le Mans Series is not run by the ACO. It's Patrick Peter's organisation who runs it under ACO regulations, kinda like the ALMS. (how many times does this return?)
And he is and old friend of Mr. Ratel from BRP times ...
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Err...the Le Mans Series is not run by the ACO. It's Patrick Peter's organisation who runs it under ACO regulations, kinda like the ALMS. (how many times does this return?)
My appologies gentlemen! Maybe I should have read ALL the Threads to do with the LMS! Thank you for putting me straight.
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 13:30 (Ref:2025697)   #114
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why don't you think about lmes wants to spreds their wing in racings, just fiagt is doing now!!!??

just look this round from fiagt this year...

how many races there were out of europeans countries???

i know i could be a mistake a race here, but there are so many races in europe right!!!!! i guess lmes is thinking about this, not about s something else...
LMS is not an world cup... itÂŽs a European private championship and the Interlagos race it is already a grand fiasco... and it didn't even start. Spreading the wings?? Maybe, but it doesn't seem to be ready for that...
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 18:13 (Ref:2025899)   #115
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It may be unfair that LMS does not visit Brazil, asia etc, but it would be more damaging to go now than if they waited- of that, i am sure. (getting all posh with the word order there!)
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 18:24 (Ref:2025906)   #116
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Not going there will do more damage...
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Old 29 Sep 2007, 23:35 (Ref:2026131)   #117
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Not going there will do more damage...
I agree.

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Old 30 Sep 2007, 00:16 (Ref:2026149)   #118
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Well...

Positives; there will be a bigger LMP1 and GT1 than ALMS has had all season.

Negatives; its still bugger all, and costs faaaar too much.

noone wants to watch 2 peugeots sweep around for 6 hours while a handful of gt and lmp2 contenders tootle about behind. That is the situation; the LMS didn't do any research, did they, or it was crap.

This is yet another embarassment for le mans racing in general.
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Old 30 Sep 2007, 00:52 (Ref:2026161)   #119
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Positives; there will be a bigger LMP1 and GT1 than ALMS has had all season.
No GT1 teams have announced they are attending, and the ALMS ran more than 4 LMP1 cars at a number of events this year.

Praying for more entries.
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Well...

Positives; there will be a bigger LMP1 and GT1 than ALMS has had all season.

Negatives; its still bugger all, and costs faaaar too much.

noone wants to watch 2 peugeots sweep around for 6 hours while a handful of gt and lmp2 contenders tootle about behind. That is the situation; the LMS didn't do any research, did they, or it was crap.

This is yet another embarassment for le mans racing in general.
10 Hours actually. This race is 1000 miles, not 1000 kilometers.
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Well...

Positives; there will be a bigger LMP1 and GT1 than ALMS has had all season.

Negatives; its still bugger all, and costs faaaar too much.

noone wants to watch 2 peugeots sweep around for 6 hours while a handful of gt and lmp2 contenders tootle about behind. That is the situation; the LMS didn't do any research, did they, or it was crap.

This is yet another embarassment for le mans racing in general.
you'd be surprised about that...

everyone here are expecting to see p1 and p2 cars, not so much gt1?? they are cool, but everyone here expects to see pugs and pesca battle for final lmes championship... and p2 too, even rml was done last silverstone lmes round... we don't want to see a full list, cuz they won't fit in the tracks, maybe 40 cars are cool (i know, i'm dreaming now...)

gt1 cars are cool, but if they won't come, just ok, we have seen so many gt1 cars here from "mil milhas" past events astons, saleen and even listers had raced here few years back...

but a prototype, man i can't see it yet here... it's a fact about 15 cars racing here (8 lmps and 7 gt2), we want more, but what can we do here about that!!!

i hope we had more brazilian and south america cars filling up the list...

don't you guys think about 2008 lmes schedule!!! and if interlagos will be there too again... i know lmes is european private championship, but they could run in some different tracks from europe like fiagt is doind now...
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Old 30 Sep 2007, 06:26 (Ref:2026465)   #122
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The race is still over a month away, many things can still happen.

If the non-championship contenders that will go to Interlagos will field local heroes that will attract sponsors and spectators.

And there might be some local GT2 cars (Porsche 996 anyone?) that could also join the race. Age of the car should not be a problem as Felbermayr-Proton is also fielding a 996 RSR.
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I think the problem was adding the race so late once all the teams had finalised their budgets for the season!! IF it had been announced when the calender was originally announced i suspect more teams may have gone!!

Certainly it needs a few local cars or drivers to spice things up!! How about Embassy shipping out the Pilbeam for some locals to race ? Or Barazi/Zyetk hiring out the 'spare' P2 car ?
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The "spare" P2 is Zytek's car and is making the trip to PLM and Laguna
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The race is still over a month away, many things can still happen.

If the non-championship contenders that will go to Interlagos will field local heroes that will attract sponsors and spectators.

And there might be some local GT2 cars (Porsche 996 anyone?) that could also join the race. Age of the car should not be a problem as Felbermayr-Proton is also fielding a 996 RSR.
well, we have a brazilian gt3 here, but they won't race with "mil milhas" http://www.gt3.com.br/temporada.asp# cuz, it'll be their final round there...

maybe some porsche from our porsche cup challenge will run too...

here is the entries till now

LM P1 :
- Team Peugeot Total # 7
- Team Peugeot Total # 8
- Creation Autosportif # 9
- Pescarolo Sport #16
- Peut ĂȘtre Zytek Arena

LM P2 :
- RML # 25
- Barazi Epsilon # 32
- Andretti Green Racing Courage LC75 Acura (maybe)
- Embassy Racing Radical SR9 Judd
- Pierre Bruneau Pilbeam MP93-01PB - Judd

LM GT1 :………. ;

- Team Luc Alphand C6R (maybe)

LM GT2 :
- Virgo Motorsport # 96
- Speedy Racing Team # 94
- Team Felbermayr Proton # 77
- Team Felbermayr Proton # 79
- Team Felbermayr Proton # 88
- Team Farnbacher
- Team James Watt Automotive.


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