[BTCC] Round Three, Thruxton 28-29 May, Races 7,8&9

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Butcher's good, he's in an uncompetitive car against tough opposition. His performance depends on the car, sometimes he has to take risks in traffic. I admit it doesn't look great, but he seems to be getting better at avoiding incidents. Collard is barely doing any better. It seems the car has lost quite a bit of performance this year

So much for Speedworks having a head start on the Hybrid!

[porsche962fan]

if they had Jordan as driver maybe

really miss him

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by InYourMirrors45

Does it work though?!

When was the last genuine time a FWD got close to winning the championship?

When was the last time that the best driver was in a FWD car?

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

if they had Jordan as driver maybe

really miss him

Gosh I don't!

[antnee]

Crmalcolm has hit the nail on the head there - while the champs might have been won by RWD cars, they have had probably the best drivers of those seasons in them. Sutton is showing it isn't just down to the drivetrain in his switch to a Ford Focus - he had 3 podium visits this weekend and is 2nd in the championship yet he still isn't happy with the car!

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by antnee

Sutton is showing it isn't just down to the drivetrain in his switch to a Ford Focus - he had 3 podium visits this weekend and is 2nd in the championship yet he still isn't happy with the car!

Also - the Infiniti that Sutton used to such good effect last year is now nowhere. When people talk about the RWD advantage a lot of that is the "WSR have built a good car and the BMW drivers are all decent" advantage.

[hen henths]

Absolutely gutted for JP after race 3.

Nice drives by Cookie. Hill couldn't quite get there.

I'm left wondering if Ash could end up winning the championship this year with hardly any wins - he's becoming the new Turkington, Mr. Consistency.

[hen henths]

What are the odds Cookie can repeat his double win on the next visit to Thruxton?

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by hen henths

What are the odds Cookie can repeat his double win on the next visit to Thruxton?

He was on pole with 2nd place hybrid penalty, so say it's pretty likely he can get pole again, unless they change the hybrid or it rains.

[hen henths]

Originally Posted by Evantra

He was on pole with 2nd place hybrid penalty, so say it's pretty likely he can get pole again, unless they change the hybrid or it rains.

Or some other teams improve their setups.

[antnee]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

Also - the Infiniti that Sutton used to such good effect last year is now nowhere. When people talk about the RWD advantage a lot of that is the "WSR have built a good car and the BMW drivers are all decent" advantage.

Yup - I think it also shows the engineer and No1 mechanic are key factors in results. No wonder Ash takes his team with him

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by hen henths

Or some other teams improve their setups.

Exactly, if Motorbase (for example) can continue to unlock the potential currently hidden inside their Focus, Ash Sutton could be a strong contender for the two wins.

[Greem]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

Also - the Infiniti that Sutton used to such good effect last year is now nowhere. When people talk about the RWD advantage a lot of that is the "WSR have built a good car and the BMW drivers are all decent" advantage.

Watching him bludgeon the Focus round Thruxton was a really good demonstration of what a monster of a driver he is. Right on the edge, and sometimes slightly over it, but more or less in control all of the time. Damned impressive.

I honestly think he should have a crack down under at some point, his driving style would really suit Supercars.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Greem

Watching him bludgeon the Focus round Thruxton was a really good demonstration of what a monster of a driver he is. Right on the edge, and sometimes slightly over it, but more or less in control all of the time. Damned impressive.

Just like Ingram when he drove the Toymotor, and why he was always there or thereabouts. Butcher just doesn't have the same finesse that Ingram had in it, which is why he doesn't feature on the podium in the same car.

[Greem]

Originally Posted by Greem

I honestly think he should have a crack down under at some point, his driving style would really suit Supercars.

Heh. I forgot he'd already been and had a test day with WAU in 2018!

[Matt K]

Shame nothing came out of it. Would be amazing to see Ash in Supercars. However, I can't recall a single non-Oz or NZ driver succeeding in Supercars.

[Greem]

Well... there was the Canadian driver Allan Moffat who won the championship 4 times *and* Bathurst 4 times.

And then some blokes called Muller, Bourdais, Premat, Lyons and Salo have had victories (as co-drivers, admittedly).

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by Greem

Well... there was the Canadian driver Allan Moffat who won the championship 4 times *and* Bathurst 4 times.

And then some blokes called Muller, Bourdais, Premat, Lyons and Salo have had victories (as co-drivers, admittedly).

Yes, Moffat is a good example but it was many many years ago.
The likes of Muller or Bourdais were co-drivers which is a bit of a different thing.

[Millvi]

The Ollie Jackson contact with Jade Edwards incident that was carried over to be looked at after that meeting….

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uplo...ie-Jackson.pdf