BMW M3 E30 - Group A/DTM 1987-92 - Page 5

Francesc · 22 Dec 2010, 22:01 (Ref:2807540)

Do you know the owner of the Pilot car? Will be possible to send some cetail pictures of it?

Many thanks

brown dog · 23 Dec 2010, 07:29 (Ref:2807633)

Hello Francesc,
yes I know the owner of the Pilot car. I can send some pictures of it, I will see it next in February, the owner does visit here so he might put some pictures up ; Stephen???

I am taking many photographs of the retoration of my car, you can find details here:
http://board.s14power.com/showthread.php?t=5815

You might have to register to view.

Conrad

Francesc · 23 Dec 2010, 21:00 (Ref:2807914)

Very nice pictures. If you want, send me your @ address and I will send you the restoration of mine.
Also I will tell you the pictures that we need for the report.

Best regards,

Francesc

E36ST · 20 Jan 2011, 07:03 (Ref:2818120)

Here's a photo with Stephen's car from the NZ Tier 1 Meeting at Ruapuna in November 2009.

Francesc · 25 Feb 2011, 22:31 (Ref:2836968)

Nice picture, do you have more?

brown dog · 25 Mar 2011, 23:24 (Ref:2853291)

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Originally Posted by brown dog

Hi Francesc,
here is a picture of my car in 1993, being driven by Winkelhock at Bathurst. I am restoring it to this condition.

regards
Conrad

In the last month I have learned some very interesting history of my car (pictured above) from the 1992 season. It turns out to be Emanuelle Pirro's 1992 DTM car, he drove this car in all of the 1992 races except race 2 at Zolder and Diepholz (due to damage in race 1) I have just received the original carpass which confirms this.

Pic of the car in 1992:

metro6r4rallycar · 26 Mar 2011, 06:26 (Ref:2853354)

http://www.coys.co.uk/auction.php?it...9&auctionID=10

DAVID PATERSON · 31 Mar 2011, 04:59 (Ref:2856187)

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Originally Posted by metro6r4rallycar

http://www.coys.co.uk/auction.php?it...9&auctionID=10

According to the ad, it started life as a Group A race car. Possibly, more valuable restored to that spec.

DAVID PATERSON · 31 Mar 2011, 05:01 (Ref:2856188)

Quote:

Originally Posted by brown dog

In the last month I have learned some very interesting history of my car (pictured above) from the 1992 season. It turns out to be Emanuelle Pirro's 1992 DTM car, he drove this car in all of the 1992 races except race 2 at Zolder and Diepholz (due to damage in race 1) I have just received the original carpass which confirms this.

Pic of the car in 1992:

Wow! What a find.

Look forward to seeing it restored.

brown dog · 31 Mar 2011, 06:36 (Ref:2856216)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Wow! What a find.

Look forward to seeing it restored.

You might do David, I hope to bring it over your way for a race meeting or two when it is finished

David Towe · 31 Mar 2011, 07:25 (Ref:2856234)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

According to the ad, it started life as a Group A race car. Possibly, more valuable restored to that spec.

If it sells at 130,000 euro that converts to $180,000 Aussie. With a 6 speed box in it now which was not homologated until 1988 adds to the cost to restore it to correct spec. which was 1987 only as a Group A car so the 6 speed would have to go.

DTM-M3 · 12 Apr 2011, 23:22 (Ref:2862684)

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Originally Posted by brown dog

You might do David, I hope to bring it over your way for a race meeting or two when it is finished

Please give us some more informations about your project. And we need more pictures of your diet coke M3.

brown dog · 13 Apr 2011, 00:42 (Ref:2862706)

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Originally Posted by DTM-M3

Please give us some more informations about your project. And we need more pictures of your diet coke M3.

I don't want to clutter this thread with a restoration project.(if you want to see the restoration, PM me and I will show you where you can find a lot more)

Anyway, here is the story of this car, as best as I know. Chassis #214 was built in 1992 by Bigazzi, and driven by Emanuelle Pirro for most of the 1992 DTM.At the end of 1992 it was sold to Logamo (Tony LOnghurst/Frank GArdner/Paul MOrris) and the spec. changed slightly to allow it to compete in the 1993 ATCC. (ABS removed, 330mm front brakes/4 pot cals, steel bonnet, glass side windows) It was driven by Paul Morris in the whole of the 1993 ATCC, then driven at Bathurst 1993 by Paul Morris and Joachim Winkelhock. Incidentally, Winkelhock set a qualifying time of 2.15.90, making it the fastest ever qually time for a BMW around Bathurst. In 1994 it was converted to a 2.0L car and sold to Mark Adderton and raced in the Australian Manufacturers championship (Supertourers) for the next couple of years. It last raced in 1998. I am restoring it back to 1992 DTM specification.

I have very few pictures of the car in 1993, however here is another.

Conrad

DTM-M3 · 13 Apr 2011, 17:26 (Ref:2862971)

Quote:

Originally Posted by brown dog

I don't want to clutter this thread with a restoration project.(if you want to see the restoration, PM me and I will show you where you can find a lot more)

Anyway, here is the story of this car, as best as I know. Chassis #214 was built in 1992 by Bigazzi, and driven by Emanuelle Pirro for most of the 1992 DTM.At the end of 1992 it was sold to Logamo (Tony LOnghurst/Frank GArdner/Paul MOrris) and the spec. changed slightly to allow it to compete in the 1993 ATCC. (ABS removed, 330mm front brakes/4 pot cals, steel bonnet, glass side windows) It was driven by Paul Morris in the whole of the 1993 ATCC, then driven at Bathurst 1993 by Paul Morris and Joachim Winkelhock. Incidentally, Winkelhock set a qualifying time of 2.15.90, making it the fastest ever qually time for a BMW around Bathurst. In 1994 it was converted to a 2.0L car and sold to Mark Adderton and raced in the Australian Manufacturers championship (Supertourers) for the next couple of years. It last raced in 1998. I am restoring it back to 1992 DTM specification.

I have very few pictures of the car in 1993, however here is another.

Conrad

Very nice. A great car with a great history. Open a Restauration Thread in this forum. There are a lot of people who are intersting in this.

brown dog · 13 Apr 2011, 19:44 (Ref:2863009)

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Originally Posted by DTM-M3

Very nice. A great car with a great history. Open a Restauration Thread in this forum. There are a lot of people who are intersting in this.

I already have a resto thread going in another forum, PM me if you want directions to it, I am not starting another

Conrad

DTM-M3 · 14 Apr 2011, 13:39 (Ref:2863275)

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Originally Posted by brown dog

I already have a resto thread going in another forum, PM me if you want directions to it, I am not starting another

Conrad

I found it. It is the M Tech-Forum/S14power.net

E36ST · 19 Apr 2011, 02:37 (Ref:2866204)

You picked a winner there Conrad, well done. I look forward to trying to keep up with you.

brown dog · 19 Apr 2011, 03:23 (Ref:2866214)

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Originally Posted by DTM-M3

I found it. It is the M Tech-Forum/S14power.net

Yep thats the one! Keep an eye on there, will be plenty of updates if you like that sort of thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by E36ST

You picked a winner there Conrad, well done. I look forward to trying to keep up with you.

Thanks Andrew, finding about the 1992 history was a bit of good luck - although I knew it was a 92 car, when I bought it I thought it was an unused spare with no history in that year. Through a friend in Germany, who managed to locate the original logbook for the car, I found out it was Mr Pirro's "works" car, and he competed in all of the 1992 DTM in this car, except for two races in the "T" car. So that was quite a bonus! And the car has just been reunited with its original logbook for probably the first time in 19 years!

BMW Klassik were quite interested to find out where the car had ended up too.

Conrad

Christian Devereux · 7 May 2011, 06:18 (Ref:2875661)

Sorry to jump in, slightly off topic, but I was wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction to find FIA Homologation spec for the E30 M3, 1989 ETC?

I've been round and round the FIA site, but I can't crack it!

Many thanks

Mike Bell · 7 May 2011, 08:08 (Ref:2875701)

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Originally Posted by Christian Devereux

Sorry to jump in, slightly off topic, but I was wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction to find FIA Homologation spec for the E30 M3, 1989 ETC?

I've been round and round the FIA site, but I can't crack it!

Many thanks

Hi Christian, I guess you need this. You can do a search on the doc but to save you that Group A M3 is homologation number 5327, 01/03/1987. Guess MSA will be able to provide copy, or try googling in case on t'internet

Christian Devereux · 7 May 2011, 14:45 (Ref:2876083)

Thanks Mike, got it!
And it's even (partly) in English!

jan bot · 4 Oct 2011, 08:41 (Ref:2965374)

I'm proud to declare that the E30 M3 can claim yet another championship!
If you've read this thread you came by the ex Rainer Vink group A Hillclimb car..
Well, we campaigned it for the first time during the latter part of 2010 and got some problems out.
This year we did the whole season of the Youngtimer Touring Car Challenge and ended up first overall!
Races where at Hockenheim, Zolder, Le Mans Bugatti circuit, Spa and Zandvoort and I've put onboards on my youtube channel of allmost all the races with a litlle report of the weekends in the description.
The car proved to be quite fast for an E30, even more when you consider that it's now an 2.3l. We got some improvements in our minds for over the winter to get laptimes even further down, but we do keep the car totally original as it is.
Managed a 2.42 at Spa

Many thanks still for all the people getting the history of our car right!

jan bot · 4 Oct 2011, 10:44 (Ref:2965465)

http://www.youtube.com/user/janbones...r?feature=mhee

Enjoy, some good sounds are also to be found here

jan bot · 9 Jan 2012, 20:13 (Ref:3009502)

Maybe I am a bit annoying as I seem to be the only one left posting here, please forgive me!

We now have a website, www.botspeed.eu
The english version will become available in the coming weeks.
Gradually the full history of our Group A M3, with movies and photos will be put online here.

**GTRMagic** · 9 Jan 2012, 22:06 (Ref:3009559)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jan bot

Maybe I am a bit annoying as I seem to be the only one left posting here, please forgive me!

We now have a website, www.botspeed.eu
The english version will become available in the coming weeks.
Gradually the full history of our Group A M3, with movies and photos will be put online here.

Awesome stuff, look forward to seeing the English version!

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