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My son James God rest his soul, was a young guy (18 when he died he would be 27 now) who owned a Mini and got in with a crowd and the thing was to do handbrake turns and fool about in general in car parks like these idiots are doing now (its hard to drift in a front wheel drive car, look at the idiots in the Escort in the video clip so yanking on the handbrake is the only way to step the backend out) which resulted in him wearing the rear brake shoes out a few months after I had fitted new ones.
On a return journey from one of these car park 'meets' he lost control of the car went head on into the oncoming traffic killed himself and the young lady (16) with him, seriously injured the young couple in the back and another young couple in the car he hit head on. The Police report had shown that the rear brake shoes had come delaminated and may have locked up a back wheel (we will never really know as it was left as an open verdict). I have to live with this everyday and blame my passion for motorsport as a factor in all this although I never drive fast on the roads so please lets discourage this illegal practice in car parks and any form of Motorsport that allows cars to be driven back from any event on the road as no doubt some these Drifters will be and I would wager that many don't even change their tyres. Trailer to a proper organised event and I have no problem with this form of the sport as each to their own, anything else as promoted by these ridiculous Hollywood movies just ain't on IMHO. |
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I know it's generalising, but tell me I'm wrong.... There is definitely an element of skill involved but at the end of the day, you can take drifting out of the car parks but can you take the car park out of drifting? |
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A tragic tale Al, and one many young drivers would do well to read.
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Drifting however is the only motor competition which involves deliberately destroying the tyres. I would suggest that instead of insisting that the cars be transported via trailer (which involves taking an extra road driving test, another vehicle, a trailer, and lots of money) the tyres are checked by a suitable official before leaving the venue. Prehaps VOSA can be persuaded to have a checkpoint at the gate of the venue to enforce this scince it is a road traffic problem. This of course, does not remove the problem of the Illegal events, but the only way of making this safe is to force the illegal "competitors" into entering a legal competition. This is highly unlikely however. |
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There was a very interesting feature on Drifting on Fifth Gear tonight in the UK. Be worth catching the repeat if you can.
Al, as The STIG says that hopefully is a lesson to many other drivers. |
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Pretty much all the events I've been to, the cars have been trailered in. They're track cars, designed to a standard in order to do a very particular job. Though the D1GB rules are fairly clear in wanting to maintain a strong connection between competition cars and the production vehicles they are based on http://www.d1gb.co.uk/rules.asp#1 Quote:
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Sorry to hear that Al, I can see the points you are making now and they do make better sense to me. The Drift club that I am involved with offers a tyre changing facility at the Drift days and in no way supports or tolerates illegal competition, in fact the local police have even been present at the last 2 drift days. Your point about driving vehicles home, well thats always going to happen, but the good thing about drifting is half the cars aren't registered and never will be because they are imports that haven't been complied, well thats the case here anyway.
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The Great Debate - Is Drifting motorsport?
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There is still no legitimate argument to say that Drifting is not motorsport.
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But who says that the FIA decide what is motorsport and what is not? Are they the self appointed rulers of motorsport? There is plenty of motorsport that happens that the FIA knows nothing about - think about it......
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The AASA runs National motorsport events in Australia that the FIA know nothing about, Does Nascar fall under the FIA?
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The only reason the FIA would know about is because CAMS are complaining because it is the people they screwed that are leaving them to run at the AASA events.
Why can't I use the US as an example, is that because it doesn't suit your argument? Is it because I have brought up a relevant fact? |
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Taken from another site discussing the same question "I keep waiting for them to use skater-like terminology . . . "Joey just pulled a front-side juicy spliffer, and waxed Jimmy's Nissan into a radical a**hat grab. Whoooooa, man!" |
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Drifting is motorsport. It involves cars, it involves racetracks, and it involves a winner. Therefore it is motorsport. What is NOT, is motor RACING.
and FWIW, I am heavily involved in the Drift scene in NSW, with ties to Initial Drift Australia (the first CAMS affiliated Drift Club in the country) as well as the Drift Australia (National) Series. I am a circuit racer at heart though (albeit not a very good one!) and that is where my allegiances lie, but Drift is an emerging sport and is continuing to grow at a rapid pace. I've seen it grow from a demo at a Procar event in 2004 through to a National Championship the following year, to this year's Championships with double the fields of 2005 (and with a wait list for entries!). Whether you like it or not, whether you consider it a motorsport or not, it's here and here to stay. |
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