[WEC Race] 2013 FIA WEC 6 Hours of São Paulo ◦◦◦ RACE THREAD

[avvelenamento]

the average system mask a bit the real difference. Loic Duval was close to run under 1.21; driver1 of #1 (don't know who, I bet Lotterer) marked 1.20.7. Fastest toyota lap is 1.21.3

[Beetle]

Red flag for major debris on start/finish line.

I believe that's the flag of the Sao Paulo state.

[avvelenamento]

red flag because of.... a flag

[airbusA346]

Red flag due to a flag on the pit straight.

[chernaudi]

Local yellow for debris--now red. I'd have to say game over with only 3 minutes left to go.

[Beetle]

Session resumes in 15 secs.

EDIT: Toyota just called it a day.

[chernaudi]

Only car might go back out is the #8, but it looks empty--seems Davidson called it a day.

[airbusA346]

#25 Delta ADR Oreca only showing 2 laps.

[Beetle]

Unofficial LMP1/LMP2 qualifying results...

1. 1 Audi
2. 2 Audi
3. 8 Toyota
4. 12 Rebellion
5. 26 G-Drive
6. 49 Pecom
7. 35 OAK
8. 41 Greaves
9. 32 Lotus
10. 24 OAK
11. 31 Lotus
12. 45 OAK

Error with #25 Delta-ADR qualifying times.

[Eryk03]

Great quali. Im happy.

[TF110]

Going to be a good race. Tire strategy will definitely be key here. With one of the Audi's spinning and a Lotus almost replicating it, the cars having to start on those tires, I wonder if it will hurt them at all? Then what compounds were the teams on for the start of the race? If its hot or cooler it can play a big part in how they perform tomorrow.

[jsTrecu]

I was expecting a smaller gap between Audi and Toyota, it's almost 0.6.
Happy to see Porsche up there again

[avvelenamento]

I think is just a dirt area of the track, everyone can make a mistake and spin there, is not a compund matter in my opinion. Yeah accordign to official average laptimes, toyota is 0.2 slower than audi, reality tells that duval and treluyer can run 1.20.7-1.21; kristensen and fassler 1.21.2. Buemi and Davidson are a bit slower.

[chernaudi]

As long as #2 Audi didn't flat spot the tires too badly, tires shouldn't be an issue (I believe that the rule is that you have to start the race with 3 of the 4 tires used in Q for the sprint races unless it rains). Toyota had at least one big lock up during qualifying, so they didn't get off scot-free on tire abuse, either. If it's bad enough, they'd probably have to change at least the right front.

If this is a pattern that will set up for the race with Toyota on average being .2-3. slower, that will play into the hands of Audi, especially if Toyota can only milk one more lap per stint on fuel. But FP2 still showed that Toyota on a long run was 1.2 seconds on average slower per lap. We know that Toyota can't possibly be that much slower on flyer. I think what might hurt Toyota the most is traffic. Audi still seem to have an edge there.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by avvelenamento

I think is just a dirt area of the track, everyone can make a mistake and spin there, is not a compund matter in my opinion. Yeah accordign to official average laptimes, toyota is 0.2 slower than audi, reality tells that duval and treluyer can run 1.20.7-1.21; kristensen and fassler 1.21.2. Buemi and Davidson are a bit slower.

You're not understanding what I said. The compounds used during qualifying may or may not be suitable for the race conditions. Thats why I said the weather will be key with the tire strategy. Nothing about those tires causing spins.

Toyota did 9 laps on their tires while the Audi that spun (which is much worse than a lockup) did 8 and the other did 12. So starting on those tires will be a factor to watch for especially if they plan to double stint them. Same thing with the Lotus in lmp2.

[avvelenamento]

Weather will be key with tire strategy, as always in each motorsport race.
There is not so much difference between 8 and 12 laps, basicly there is something less than 20km. Is hard now to see how much this will influence the first section of the race. If am I not wrong, each stint at interlagos is more than 30 laps, I doubt that audi will have the same wear rate issues of last year.

[TF110]

Double stinting tires is over 60 laps. Thats when tires that are 4 laps freshser count.

[avvelenamento]

Very relatively in my opinion. Audi very likely will need however to make more pit stop than toyota, to have first 2 stints of 28-29 laps instead of 30 doesn't change anything.

[TF110]

I don't understand your point, but I'm not arguing with you so I'm done on the subject.

[avvelenamento]

Nevermind, you'll understand just watching the race.

[MyNameIsNigel]

Originally Posted by avvelenamento

Nevermind, you'll understand just watching the race.

[airbusA346]

Originally Posted by Beetle

Unofficial LMP1/LMP2 qualifying results...

1. 1 Audi
2. 2 Audi
3. 8 Toyota
4. 12 Rebellion
5. 26 G-Drive
6. 49 Pecom
7. 35 OAK
8. 41 Greaves
9. 32 Lotus
10. 24 OAK
11. 31 Lotus
12. 45 OAK

Error with #25 Delta-ADR qualifying times.

#25 had a puncture at the start of Robbie Kerrs stint according to DSC. They will start at the back of the LMP2 grid. But don't the rules say that they should go to the back of the grid (before everyone with penalties) due to everyone else completing 4 laps?

#61 has lost its pole position in GTE-Am and will start at the back of the grid with #76 and #57.

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by airbusA346

#25 had a puncture at the start of Robbie Kerrs stint according to DSC. They will start at the back of the LMP2 grid. But don't the rules say that they should go to the back of the grid (before everyone with penalties) due to everyone else completing 4 laps?

I think the #25 has been given a break of sorts. Saw a tweet about stewards decision 15 but can't actually find that anywhere.

I'd guess they'll start from the back of the class.

[airbusA346]

Originally Posted by Simmi

I think the #25 has been given a break of sorts. Saw a tweet about stewards decision 15 but can't actually find that anywhere.

I'd guess they'll start from the back of the class.

Yeah, stewards decisions 11-18 aren't on Alkamel yet.

And yes they are starting from the back of the class.

[airbusA346]

It was a ride height infringement for #61.