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Surely in FIA thinking having the WEC there before the first F1 race as a kind of trial run would make more sense?
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Dagys later corrected much that the McLaren is just a rumour, not that he is stating it as fact.
Unlimited would be a more fitting name, if they were a re-creation run of 8.3l M8F's... now I could enjoy that, even as a spec series. Last edited by Fogelhund; 14 Sep 2011 at 11:34. |
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http://mclarengt.com/news-and-events/details/id/14 If it is the MP4-12C, maybe they'll be much coser to production cars than GT3 versions? No, on balance, I think I'd prefer your idea of a continuation run of M8Fs... |
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Well I suppose we will have to wait another couple of days to find out for sure.
I would like to see the URC end up being an opening up of the ALMS prototype class to keep Dyson and Pickett happy and maybe get more cars in there as well. |
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Who said anything about GT3?!
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So, another spec one make support series. Ala Patron cup.
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....GTC class was meant for one make series cars right? Err....URC McLarens vs Cup Porsches vs Ferrari Challenge F458s anyone?
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Can-Am? LMPEvo? Who knows?!
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The fact there isn't an obvious route forward could be an argument to stick with current arrangements for the short-term at least. Last edited by JAG; 14 Sep 2011 at 17:35. |
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Again, I wrote about the issues of the ACO and the ALMS some 21 months ago, and how the wants/needs of the ACO and ALMS were divergent. Of course Jag, you argued that this was patently false the whole time, and that ILMC/WEC would be great for all. Jag, I don't know if you mostly argue for Status Quo because it is what you know, and don't like change, or you simply cannot see how the landscape can change, and how events/announcements are threats and/or opportunities. My expectation is that Don and Scott will renew with the ACO, and will continue to deteriorate, due to a complete inability for forward thinking, and only the ability to attempt to tread water. Short of Don having some sort of epiphany, changing the management and direction... the only real solution is to find new ownership/management for the series. Of course that is nothing new, and that option was pursued some 21 months ago too.. Don seems more concerned in vanity projects that will do nothing at all for the state of the sport, then the actual health of his series. |
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Do you think they don't for cost savings? Because at Lime Rock I believe there is a really low decibel limit, so instead of forcing teams to go through the cost of changing in and out the exhaust at all, they just mandate the quieter exhaust?
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I don't think there's any separate decibel limit at Lime Rock for professional events, although they do have different ones for different club-level meetings. Right now the limits for both LMP and GTE are 110 db, I'd assume that GTC would be limited to that as well - but probably runs well below that due to spec parts.
The "with better knowledge than myself" crowd can feel free to prove me wrong on that... I'm in a real conundrum on this whole IMSA/ACO issue. I want the series to continue strongly with a big field of prototypes, but don't want them dumbed-down to DP levels or become a spec series to do it. I also worry about the ACO withdrawing their consent to use anything resembling their rulebook, which means IMSA has to start entirely from scratch for both prototypes and GT's. I'm under no illusions of a really "unlimited" championship. But could an unlimited engine/Group C-type formula work with a fuel consumption limit? Full racing engines allowed but give a little bit extra fuel for stock-based engines? |
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I don't believe it is possible for them to block usage of essentially the same rules. Use the same basic chassis rules, open up the engines..
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They could adapt what ever displacement, weight, aero rules they desire on the same chassis now run in any class. It was Panoz brown-nosing the ACO that doomed the IMSA from the get-go. |
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With Strakka running an ARX-03 in the WEC next year, could that maybe be a car that Cytosport might run in the ALMS, considering that they've spoken to Nick Wirth and HPD over at least an engine supply deal?
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If Cytosport decides to come back, if there is an ALMS, yes that is one of the many options and people they've talked with.
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Wirth is quoted as saying it is 'realistic' that there will be a car in the ALMS
'It is great to get the first car along the line, but hopefully we will be announcing another car soon' Autosport suggest there has been 'significant interest in the ARX03a from both sides of the Atlantic' |
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Im not surprised ..... its about the best petrol car out there ..... Oreca/Nissan doesnt excatly have reliability yet ..... yet .
Is anyone from the USA showing interest in an Oreca yet ? |
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Earlier in the year Toyota announced an exclusive tie up with Lola chassis so I would have expected at least 1 non-rebellion car to turn up (and obviously that won't be in Europe)
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