[V8SC09R09&10] Skycity Triple Crown, Hidden Valley Raceway, NT (Merged x1)

[peckstar]

Rick not happy

plus a bit more detail about the investigation

[flying finn]

A great result for GRM, Caruso, Holden and the whole of the V8 Supercars Series

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Rick not happy

Rick - “The Safety Car, in a lot of people's mind, was probably questionable and it took a second place off of us at the end of the day, which was extremely disappointing,” Kelly said.
“Lowndesy then ran me into the grass after the restart, which was a bit of fun, and we finished fourth.
“So that's a fantastic result for the team but it's also the most frustrating result of the year because second was well and truly in our sights.”

I seem to recall a certain date punch at PI in 2006 was questionable, taking the series win away from C. Lowndes (the date punchee) and giving it to the date puncher.

Karma's a biatch isn't it? I seem to recall a certain sponsor at the time, with the backing of the date puncher, publishing a picture of a box of tissues in the punchee's livery. Perhaps the puncher should take a leaf from his own book?

[rich07]

Good on Caruso and GRM, a well deserved result for driver and team, nice to see Gazza enjoying the moment-especially when Caruso was up on the podium, you could see how much it meant to him.

Biante was awesome, they should show more of it.

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by johnh875

I think the SC was scrambled just before Slade got going again.

Correct...and the lights were OFF almost as quickly, and racing resumed smartly, its a pity the field bunched up again for no real reason...but these things happen

[275 GTB-4]

[QUOTE=redesp;2487872]Biante's were great.. sad to see the XY hit the fence though.. Gee the camera man must have quietly Sh1t himself.. lol

Maybe the sprint tyre is a good innovation.
Better than reverse grids or re-qualifying.
QUOTE]

Yes they were!! fabulous racing Certainly a big hit though

Its a pity that the "main event" seems hell-bent on making the whole exercise so technically confusing and contrived that the fans have almost no idea what is going on in any given race

[Chatters]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

Rick - “The Safety Car, in a lot of people's mind, was probably questionable and it took a second place off of us at the end of the day, which was extremely disappointing,” Kelly said.
“Lowndesy then ran me into the grass after the restart, which was a bit of fun, and we finished fourth.
“So that's a fantastic result for the team but it's also the most frustrating result of the year because second was well and truly in our sights.”

I seem to recall a certain date punch at PI in 2006 was questionable, taking the series win away from C. Lowndes (the date punchee) and giving it to the date puncher.

Karma's a biatch isn't it? I seem to recall a certain sponsor at the time, with the backing of the date puncher, publishing a picture of a box of tissues in the punchee's livery. Perhaps the puncher should take a leaf from his own book?

Aside from being off topic, you're just listening to what you want to hear from Rick. He's talking about the safety car and you take something he said in jest and try and bring back past incidents which everyone moved on from a long time ago...

[davester]

A big thumbs up IMO goes to those who Top-10 in both races...Whincup (1/10), Tander (4/5), Lowndes (6/3), and Holdsworth (10/7).

To Top-10 in both races is now an even tougher achievement, given the option tyre makes it easier for those prepared to sacrifice a race to go better in the other.

And yes, the safety car type scenario was always on the cards...it's just a matter of who and when.

[nomad_n]

mmm just reading the news briefs on the V8 supercar website and good to see Tander hasn't dissapointed us by not whinging..... Hes now complaining about back markers behind the safety car that ruined his race.

He said that Dale Wood should go back to Formula Fords as he's out of his depth in the main game.... I say he has every right to be there and Tander should learn that racing has a thing in it called passing.

[petebendon]

Originally Posted by nomad_n

mmm just reading the news briefs on the V8 supercar website and good to see Tander hasn't dissapointed us by not whinging..... Hes now complaining about back markers behind the safety car that ruined his race.

He said that Dale Wood should go back to Formula Fords as he's out of his depth in the main game.... I say he has every right to be there and Tander should learn that racing has a thing in it called passing.

tander's right woods out of his depth

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by BlueBlood

Excellent race.

Where are all the "Alex can't drive" critics now??

Excellent showing by the young guns.

One race out of 10 so far...

[Kingair]

An interesting weekend.

Race 1
Good to see Jason Richards claim his maiden pole.

Nice work by Mr Whincup to get the win.

Somebody by the officials a watch set to CST time please!!!


Race 2

Nice work Mr Caruso and the GRM team.

Did I witness Garry Rogers showing some emotion during trophy presentation?

The only downside to a GRM win is what the team owner will do at the next round, will he dress as a grid girl?

Mr Alex Davison showed a nice bit of form, could be a dark horse for the later rounds!

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by petebendon

tander's right woods out of his depth

I call BS, Woods was circulating OK, if Champion Drivers can't work out a way around the backmarkers, then, THEY don't deserve to be out there

[fomoco]

Originally Posted by petebendon

tander's right woods out of his depth

I wonder what they said when he first started, No change from Tander this year, just wind up the spring and release and get ready for the whinge. Nothing new.

[peckstar]

in GT first 7 starts he had 3 top ten finishes. he finished 15th in his first round

[petebendon]

at least tander was fast.......from centrol forum woods average qualifing position is 26.7 and finishes 22.6 avg .............out of his depth. woods wasnt circulating well either, ask winterbottom about saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Raceonly]

Now now, that is just being fair. Mr GTR has long questioned Caruso's ability, claiming he could not drive a big horsepower car with no grip- and that was before he got into the main game. We all know- and as I believe no lesser an authority than Sir Jack said, you only have to win by the smallest possible margin. You develop a strategy that caters for this, and some times pace cars stuff it up, like they did at Winton, and sometimes they do not (Darwin). Well done to Michael and his team.

How is it that GRM can do what HRT and co cannot? Betchya I am not the only bloke in town asking that question.

Originally Posted by TS-Fitty

Yeah, and if it had of finished 10 laps earlier, he would have won by a light year.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Raceonly

Now now, that is just being fair. Mr GTR has long questioned Caruso's ability, claiming he could not drive a big horsepower car with no grip- and that was before he got into the main game. We all know- and as I believe no lesser an authority than Sir Jack said, you only have to win by the smallest possible margin. You develop a strategy that caters for this, and some times pace cars stuff it up, like they did at Winton, and sometimes they do not (Darwin). Well done to Michael and his team.

How is it that GRM can do what HRT and co cannot? Betchya I am not the only bloke in town asking that question.

Can he do it again? Will the strategy planets align so that the performance that some are seeing as a HUGE breakthrough is actually something repeatable and scalable?

Same question applies to Mr A.Davison.

[TWRv12]

Caruso and A.Davison did great in race 2. Really enjoyed that race. Caruso did brillant to hang on for the win.

Lovely to see teams like GRM win. You see how much it really means to them to win.

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by Chatters

Aside from being off topic, you're just listening to what you want to hear from Rick. He's talking about the safety car and you take something he said in jest and try and bring back past incidents which everyone moved on from a long time ago...

Originally Posted by Mummy's Boy

The Safety Car, in a lot of people's mind, was probably questionable

this is jest? surely not? didn't think he had a sense of humour? i'm actually questioning how he can whinge about the result of something semi dodgy when he and his former sponsor have done something in the past that is even more dodgy. It would be like Skaife going off at someone for standing at the side of the track and yelling "No Soup For You" as Ingall drove past one lap after a race changing incident...

[Belly13]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Can he do it again? Will the strategy planets align so that the performance that some are seeing as a HUGE breakthrough is actually something repeatable and scalable?

Same question applies to Mr A.Davison.

I don't believe some people. The facts are there for all to see. Strategy wins races in modern-day motorsport. Not only did 'Robbo' have the win in the bag before the safety car came out, he was able to pull away for the few laps after the safety car from Craig Lowndes...but since Caruso has 'little ability' according to GTRMagic, I suppose holding off a fast-finishing 4-times Bathurst champion would be a walk in the park, aye Mr Magic?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Belly13

I don't believe some people. The facts are there for all to see. Strategy wins races in modern-day motorsport. Not only did 'Robbo' have the win in the bag before the safety car came out, he was able to pull away for the few laps after the safety car from Craig Lowndes...but since Caruso has 'little ability' according to GTRMagic, I suppose holding off a fast-finishing 4-times Bathurst champion would be a walk in the park, aye Mr Magic?

The 'facts' as you describe are that Mr Caruso won a race.

As a point of clarity, this data is available for all to see. The context must be understood for facts to be adequately interpreted. The context in this circumstance was having the 'right' tyres left.. and qualifying well.

Will it happen again? Is there a genuine pace that is sustainable and consistent for the rest of the year?

A reasonable question I would have thought

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by nomad_n

mmm just reading the news briefs on the V8 supercar website and good to see Tander hasn't dissapointed us by not whinging..... Hes now complaining about back markers behind the safety car that ruined his race.

He said that Dale Wood should go back to Formula Fords as he's out of his depth in the main game.... I say he has every right to be there and Tander should learn that racing has a thing in it called passing.

Kelly Racing agree... Here

[PhaseIII]

It's interesting, that the penalty applied to #21 Triple F Racing, has only been applied to the 'Teams Championship' - not to the 'Driver's Championship'

[retro]

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