LMDh (DPi regulations version 2.0)

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by chernaudi

Still don't like the quasi spec chassis (LMP2 based) and I'd rather see teams be able to build their own cars from scratch and have the option of building a customer car to their specs.

Sadly, the car makers (outside of Toyota and Glickenhaus) are pushing for this, and they're getting their way. At least this will hopefully put more cars on the grid.

There's also questions on if Toyota's and Glickenhaus' cars will be eligible for IMSA.

Originally Posted by truebeliever

Nowhere has IMSA stated that Hypercar can race in IMSA, not so far as I have read.

First, no one else has agreed build any cars at all any more so why cater to 2 and end up with 4 cars in your field. Others may produce more cars and not cost you anything, and you aren't eliminating those 2 options.

Second, read the articles. It says hypercar will be open to run in IMSA with a major caveat. They specifically say twice major manufacturer, means possibly only Toyota could run. It's not like Ina IMSA would exclude an American team because they aren't major. Oh wait, they didn't let Panoz run in Conti Challenge either so.

[broadrun96]

Man, there are a lot of renderings out there with interesting details.

Bit of Porsche


Bit of Cadillac in the angular cuts and the lights



And from DSC's article, is that a bit of a certain English car who screwed all this up before?

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2020/0...lass-name.html



Sounds like they're likely fun requests for designs from Andy Blackmore from the article. But I like them all and hope there will be variety.

[joeb]

McLaren is "very happy" with the ruleset.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...regs-offering/

Probably still won't do anything....

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by joeb

McLaren is "very happy" with the ruleset.



https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...regs-offering/



Probably still won't do anything....

Oh I'm sure they'll talk a lot, tell us how great it would be to win LM overall again and have a few design ideas. Oh wait, you meant do anything on the track.

[tux]

Im very bored of Mclaren and Ferrari with their "we might enter, we might not" Either put up or shut up. Ive been following Sportscars for 15 years and im pretty sure every year we get this story about either Mclaren or Ferrari "considering Le Mans".

[S griffin]

I think they need to wait to see how the new rules go before the commit to anything. Then we could see McLaren in it. And Ferrari may or may not, depends if the rules suit them. We’ve had plenty of rumours in the past, but they rarely seem to gain weight. But it would be good to see both of them in the series

[jimclark]

Originally Posted by tux

Im very bored of Mclaren and Ferrari with their "we might enter, we might not" Either put up or shut up. Ive been following Sportscars for 15 years and im pretty sure every year we get this story about either Mclaren or Ferrari "considering Le Mans".

All of 15 years? Wow.

Try 4x that and it's been going on with one make or another since I've been following. 'Doesn't bore me at all. (btw, I was always pleased to see the 333SPs. Followed by the GTRs, CLKs, and GT1s here in the States in '97 albeit rather inclement weather)

Why does it mean so much to you? Just take it with a grain of salt and carry on. Things could be worse.

[deggis]

Originally Posted by tux

Im very bored of Mclaren and Ferrari with their "we might enter, we might not" Either put up or shut up. Ive been following Sportscars for 15 years and im pretty sure every year we get this story about either Mclaren or Ferrari "considering Le Mans".

To be fair those biennial Ferrari to Le Mans stories rarely come from Ferrari itself, while in McLaren's case it is always Zak Brown speaking. And since the HyperCarCar talk started in 2018 "McLaren talks about hypercar/LMH/road-car-hypercar/DPI2.0/LMDh" has been a monthly story, while there has been talk of Ferrari only a couple of times.

[NaBUru38]

So who else would join Audi, Porsche and Acura at LMDh?


Cadillac, BMW, Mazda?

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

So who else would join Audi, Porsche and Acura at LMDh?


Cadillac, BMW, Mazda?

I think Mazda have cited preliminary work for a potential LMDH program as one of the reasons for their scaled down DPi program this year.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

I think Mazda have cited preliminary work for a potential LMDH program as one of the reasons for their scaled down DPi program this year.

Yes, and a gm brand seems certain as well.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by joeb

Yes, and a gm brand seems certain as well.

Saturn? Pontiac? Wait, they can use the same chassis in WEC so Buick right??

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by joeb

Yes, and a gm brand seems certain as well.

GM should make a Hypercar, a new version of the Corvette DP with a Carbon Fiber chassis and with the C8 lines.
An LMDH would not fit a Corvette because it would have a very small cabin.
I suppose that GM should be analyzing this situation, GTLM is in extinction and I understand that the budget for an LMDH / Hypercar is not very different to GTLM.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Saturn? Pontiac? Wait, they can use the same chassis in WEC so Buick right??

Hummer, since they will have the hybrid thing going!

[ascarracinguk]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

GM should make a Hypercar, a new version of the Corvette DP with a Carbon Fiber chassis and with the C8 lines.
An LMDH would not fit a Corvette because it would have a very small cabin.
I suppose that GM should be analyzing this situation, GTLM is in extinction and I understand that the budget for an LMDH / Hypercar is not very different to GTLM.

corvette fitted in GTP nicely with the small cockpits....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette_GTP

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by ascarracinguk

corvette fitted in GTP nicely with the small cockpits....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette_GTP

The cabin of the Corvette GTP is similar to the DP cabin and larger than the cabin of an LMP2 (LMDH).
I really can't imagine a Corvette with a bubble cabin.

[ascarracinguk]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

The cabin of the Corvette GTP is similar to the DP cabin and larger than the cabin of an LMP2 (LMDH).
I really can't imagine a Corvette with a bubble cabin.

How many Mazdas, Porsches, Cadillacs, Acuras, Toyotas do you see on the road with a bubble cabin?....

[jimclark]

Only one I remember is.......https://thenewswheel.com/wp-content/...Flying-Car.jpg

[broadrun96]

Shhhh, don't point out the obvious.

[NaBUru38]

Hybrids look more of a Cadillac thing than the Corvette.


And I'd rather have Corvettes in a GT class.

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Hybrids look more of a Cadillac thing than the Corvette.


And I'd rather have Corvettes in a GT class.

Hypercars are not required to be hybrids, the Glickenhaus will not be hybrid.
The GTLM class is about to disappear.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Hybrids look more of a Cadillac thing than the Corvette.


And I'd rather have Corvettes in a GT class.

It's going to be an all brands thing, likely for short run before electric onlys come on line for them as well. If you don't think GM has an all electric Vette in the pipeline you're either being obstinate or clueless.

[jimclark]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

If you don't think GM has an all electric Vette in the pipeline you're either being obstinate or clueless.

'Don't have to like it but agree. It's inevitable.

Will a high performance whirrr ever take hold?...evoke the sound of "music"?
I don't see (hear?) it....... (and I used to race slot and r/c cars.....at least the 1/24th slot cars did/do "scream", turning a gazillion thousand RPM)

I guess when that's all there is......

[hondafan37]

GM: LMDh, GT3 Discussions “On the Table”
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/g...-on-the-table/

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

GM: LMDh, GT3 Discussions “On the Table”
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/g...-on-the-table/

to me GM is the manufacturer in the best position, they could have a bright future with a minimal effort since they don't need to build/design anything from scratch... just like 488 and vantage, they could adapt C8R to gt3 specs or even better, with basically 0 effort, they could send street chassis and LT2 engines to callaway in germany to let them make the whole work (like ferrari does with michelotto). That way they will be in the position to have a work/semiwork effort in IMSA (or LM if ACO will drop GTE soon or later) and the possibility to have a customers program as well.
Cadillac dpi is already a beast of car and unlike audi or porsche, they have already a really competitive base platform to evolve for lmdh with the spec ERS. Just like the C8R, they will have both the possibility to enter with a work team at lemans or give a limited support to private teams as they do during these seasons in IMSA.