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Old 3 Dec 2009, 08:21 (Ref:2593246)   #101
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No matter the quotes, I can't believe that an endurance race qualifies for Kimi's brain as "fun".
Can't see why not?.
He is a racer, and the other F1 drivers who has driven the 908, thought it was a blast driving it!.
Besides, how do you know what Raikonnen thinks is fun?, he loves rallying, why not endurance?
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Old 3 Dec 2009, 19:08 (Ref:2593575)   #102
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I think he may not like it because if the race is 24 Hours long it will cut out at least one night of drinking from his week.

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Funny, somewhere I read someone stating that Kimi just wasn't a personality cut out for F1 in the 21st century, where media savvy is more important than anything else, and that the bulk of modern F1 fans couldn't understand him. I'm sad to say that modern sportscar fans seem to suffer from the same issue.

Raikkonen clearly enjoys driving as much or more than anyone else in F1 today, which is why he seems so bored with the current state of F1. This is a man who will happily throw away a paycheque to throw a rallycar around. That is a man who actually likes having fun driving...
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I think Kimi plays the "Finnish" part as a sense of humour. Some of the dry stuff he says is hilarious. I think he'd drive anything.
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Funny, somewhere I read someone stating that Kimi just wasn't a personality cut out for F1 in the 21st century, where media savvy is more important than anything else, and that the bulk of modern F1 fans couldn't understand him. I'm sad to say that modern sportscar fans seem to suffer from the same issue.

Raikkonen clearly enjoys driving as much or more than anyone else in F1 today, which is why he seems so bored with the current state of F1. This is a man who will happily throw away a paycheque to throw a rallycar around. That is a man who actually likes having fun driving...
Well, Mclaren stated that Raikonnen was demanding 10million punds, in pay check, as Ferrari offered him, for staying away for a year! (unfortunately i can't find my source!).
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Old 4 Dec 2009, 18:44 (Ref:2594077)   #106
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Autosport have confirmed Citroen have signed Kimi in the WRC, that really does open the possibility of Kimi at Le mans in a 908.
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Steven Robertson (manager): "It was clear from the beginning that at some point Kimi moves to rallying. He still has the same passion to race. Besides rallying he would be interested in 24 Hours of Le Mans race or driving in some series in the United States."

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Old 5 Dec 2009, 22:47 (Ref:2594639)   #108
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Raikkonen clearly enjoys driving as much or more than anyone else in F1 today, which is why he seems so bored with the current state of F1. This is a man who will happily throw away a paycheque to throw a rallycar around. That is a man who actually likes having fun driving...
It is likely the opposite. Since Ferrari ended the contract, he gets a paycheck anyway. Thanks to some kind of clause that paycheck is higher if (not anymore "if") he doesn't drive for any other F1 team in 2010. There is a possibility that this money from Ferrari plus this Citroen deal (there were reports he gets 2x Loeb's salary) could be more than he would get by driving in F1 next season. This could tell something about the motivation too...

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The contracts he turned down in F1 for 2010 are surely more than the Citoren paycheque...
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The contracts he turned down in F1 for 2010 are surely more than the Citoren paycheque...
But he would not get as much money from Ferrari if he decided drove for some team in F1. Reports seem to vary but the difference was considerable, several millions.

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That is the wildcard, but nobody seems to know exactly what the nature of that deal was. The fact remains that I believe Kimi is done with F1 and on the route to new challenges that don't come with the same PR obsession. I think his is as much of a sabbatical as Mika Hakkinen's was.
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is this saying what I think it does??

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I have checked again and no it doesn't. It basically confirms that there were talks with Peugeot but they have not gone ahead
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I have checked again and no it doesn't. It basically confirms that there were talks with Peugeot but they have not gone ahead
Well not even talks, they investigated the possibility, but they couldn't because of the current contract with Acura, which ends in 2011, and there opens for a Peugeot, but only if Peugeot gives Highcroft support.
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Autohebdo today confirms the rumour about a Redbull 908 for Loeb and Räikkonen

They also add possibility of Coulthard as third driver

But of course all that remains rumour until it's confirmed by Quesnel
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Autohebdo today confirms the rumour about a Redbull 908 for Loeb and Räikkonen

They also add possibility of Coulthard as third driver

But of course all that remains rumour until it's confirmed by Quesnel
Yes, Quesnel holds the key to confirming this rumour, and until he does, its nothing more.

I don't see Coulthard as 3rd driver, but i do see Weber as one (he drove/flew the Mercedes CLR in '99), but he might not be available.
Does Red Bull support any endurance drivers?.
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Autohebdo today confirms the rumour about a Redbull 908 for Loeb and Räikkonen

They also add possibility of Coulthard as third driver

But of course all that remains rumour until it's confirmed by Quesnel
Would that be the "fourth" 908 or replace one of the Total sponsored cars?
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Yes, Quesnel holds the key to confirming this rumour, and until he does, its nothing more.

I don't see Coulthard as 3rd driver, but i do see Weber as one (he drove/flew the Mercedes CLR in '99), but he might not be available.
Does Red Bull support any endurance drivers?.
Pretty sure the CanadianGP is scheduled for that weekend, ruling Webber out.
Does Bourdais have Red Bull backing?
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Pretty sure the CanadianGP is scheduled for that weekend, ruling Webber out.
Does Bourdais have Red Bull backing?
Bourdais is properly running with the Peugeot team, if he is running at all. But he did race for STR (Torro Rosso), but that didn't end very well, so i guess not.
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If no Peugeot's available, we know Red Bull looks good on VAG products...
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PSA-Peugeot-Citroen, remember?
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