ELMS ELMS Discussion - Page 5

Purist · 14 Apr 2018, 17:35 (Ref:3815460)

From the times I'm seeing set at Paul Ricard, it sure looks like they're back to using the full, uninterrupted Mistral Straight, and I'm glad to see it.

Akrapovic · 14 Apr 2018, 17:50 (Ref:3815462)

Yeah, full straight. Odd qualifying as there was a red flag so the grid isn't fully representative. United Autosports struggled a lot.

Does seem like an Oreca fest still.

Juntos · 14 Apr 2018, 21:17 (Ref:3815529)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Does seem like an Oreca fest still.

Did you expect otherwise?

RedSquirrel · 15 Apr 2018, 10:35 (Ref:3815686)

I really love Circuit Paul Ricard.

Anyone else watching?

Akrapovic · 15 Apr 2018, 10:39 (Ref:3815687)

I am. Hate the circuit but the racing has been good so far. Signatech are looking strong for the win. That's my prediction.

Akrapovic · 15 Apr 2018, 10:42 (Ref:3815689)

Unexpected side effect of the new pit stop rules: Cameraman can't get close enough to see the driver change in detail, as the mechanics need in to change tyres.

Tyres can easily be changed within the fuel time, making strategy far less important. As we all knew.

RedSquirrel · 15 Apr 2018, 12:01 (Ref:3815713)

What is Jonny Palmer talking about? Safer to repair a barrier under safety car than Code 80? 80km/h is first gear in every car. What could be safer?

Akrapovic · 15 Apr 2018, 12:07 (Ref:3815715)

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Originally Posted by RedSquirrel

What is Jonny Palmer talking about? Safer to repair a barrier under safety car than Code 80? 80km/h is first gear in every car. What could be safer?

Usually they switch to SC when the barriers are very close to the track. That way it gives the marshalls a big 3 minute block at a time without a car coming by as they're behind SC in a bunch. But it doesn't really apply at Paul Ricard because the barriers are further away than the horizon.

Not really sure the SC was needed for this one. FCY would've been good enough. Doesn't appear to be an attempt at fixing the barrier either. Edit: They're going to stick tyres in front of it. Fair enough.

RedSquirrel · 15 Apr 2018, 12:11 (Ref:3815716)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Usually they switch to SC when the barriers are very close to the track. That way it gives the marshalls a big 3 minute block at a time without a car coming by as they're behind SC in a bunch. But it doesn't really apply at Paul Ricard because the barriers are further away than the horizon.

Not really sure the SC was needed for this one. FCY would've been good enough. Doesn't appear to be an attempt at fixing the barrier either. Edit: They're going to stick tyres in front of it. Fair enough.

Yeah, that's what I meant. The barriers are so far from the track they're nearly in Italy. Seems perfectly safe to repair under Code 80.

J Jay · 15 Apr 2018, 13:20 (Ref:3815734)

I've missed the first three hours. No problem though, I'll just rewind the YouTube live stream ...

... which is missing the first hour.

I know it's a running joke that ELMS start times are always 1 hour off, but it seems the ACO takes this very seriously

Who thought a rolling 2 hour window for a YouTube stream was a good idea? Looks like I'll be watching on replay.

EffectiveSprinkles · 15 Apr 2018, 13:40 (Ref:3815741)

Isn't that a Youtube limitation? I could be wrong.

The race has been very fun so far, I've watched much more of it than I thought I would.

J Jay · 15 Apr 2018, 13:46 (Ref:3815743)

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Originally Posted by EffectiveSprinkles

Isn't that a Youtube limitation? I could be wrong.

The race has been very fun so far, I've watched much more of it than I thought I would.

I'm sure it isn't. The English (RLM) stream for the N24 qualifying race has been going for almost four hours so far, and I can rewind to the start of the race.

Akrapovic · 15 Apr 2018, 13:54 (Ref:3815745)

It's a YouTube feature/setting AFAIK. So can be changed by the video owner. It'll be a few hours until the start appears once the video ends too.

Akrapovic · 15 Apr 2018, 14:03 (Ref:3815747)

Well, that was an excellent opening race. Great stuff.

EffectiveSprinkles · 15 Apr 2018, 14:04 (Ref:3815748)

Very entertaining race. I love that it's just free on Youtube.

Was that a punt though by the JMW Ferrari?

Starfish Primer · 15 Apr 2018, 14:05 (Ref:3815749)

What a finish in GT!

Akrapovic · 15 Apr 2018, 14:08 (Ref:3815750)

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Originally Posted by EffectiveSprinkles

Very entertaining race. I love that it's just free on Youtube.

Was that a punt though by the JMW Ferrari?

I wouldn't say it was a punt, but they took a LOT of kerb on the first right hander and there was contact from the Ferrari being a little upset.

If the stewards reverse that then I could see their point, but I'd leave it as is personally. Technically, the Ferrari was alongside but by the time the Porsche recovered, it had a car length ahead. So the Porsche actually came out better by about 2-3 meters, lol.

Steve McQ · 15 Apr 2018, 14:59 (Ref:3815756)

To be honest, I feel that the race was a bit less interesting than most of last years'. That shouldn't have been the case considering the increased amount of serious P2 contenders.

I think the pitstops regulation change robbed us from a really entertaining end of the race at the very front of the field. There was no strategy gamble from anyone, because it has become pointless to do so. And then, no one was able to seriously challenge Racing Engineering to overall victory.

Shame on you ACO. Shame on you.

J Jay · 15 Apr 2018, 15:34 (Ref:3815768)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

It's a YouTube feature/setting AFAIK. So can be changed by the video owner. It'll be a few hours until the start appears once the video ends too.

The race upload is up, but it's still only the last two hours of the broadcast (so the last ~100 minutes of the race).

Luckily, creator provincialism strikes again! Dailymotion has the entire broadcast ready to go.

Mike E · 18 Apr 2018, 06:45 (Ref:3816300)

The whole race is on Youtube now.

Were all of the P2s running the joker updates?
Just wondering because the first 15 finishers were P2s and the top 7 were Orecas.
Fastest Oreca lap - 1:42.540
Fastest Ligier lap - 1:43.135
Fastest Dallara lap - 1:43.743

EffectiveSprinkles · 18 Apr 2018, 10:55 (Ref:3816324)

From what I've heard they were all running the updates. Either they didn't work or the teams haven't found out how to properly make use of them yet. Although I think most of the updates concern the low downforce kits used at Le Mans, so maybe it will actually be closer there.

Maybe someone else knows this but did Oreca get an update too?

Mike E · 18 Apr 2018, 11:29 (Ref:3816333)

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Originally Posted by EffectiveSprinkles

From what I've heard they were all running the updates. Either they didn't work or the teams haven't found out how to properly make use of them yet. Although I think most of the updates concern the low downforce kits used at Le Mans, so maybe it will actually be closer there.

Maybe someone else knows this but did Oreca get an update too?

No update for Oreca, much to their disgust.

EffectiveSprinkles · 18 Apr 2018, 12:04 (Ref:3816341)

Then it does look a bit like Onroak and Dallara dropped the ball...

Coach Ep · 18 Apr 2018, 14:55 (Ref:3816366)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

No update for Oreca, much to their disgust.

They played the game well, very well.

Juntos · 20 Apr 2018, 22:29 (Ref:3816708)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

They played the game well, very well.

We shall always remember that ACO series are always a French affair.

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