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CTD · 19 Oct 2013, 10:11 (Ref:3319755)

Even the Chevron-TJ is beautiful compared to - that!

Looks like something a 3 year old would build out of Lego!

**FIRE** · 19 Oct 2013, 10:36 (Ref:3319761)

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Originally Posted by lms

the frickin hideous dayto i mean zulltec cn
http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/exc...pris-la-piste/

This must be a joke?
Compared to this the FIAT Multipla is a beautiful car.

NaBUru38 · 19 Oct 2013, 14:37 (Ref:3319818)

Eeewww!!!

Ken_T · 20 Oct 2013, 15:18 (Ref:3320552)

A better looking coupe built to CN regs. Praga

http://pragaglobal.com/cars/praga-r1/#home

ger80 · 20 Oct 2013, 15:37 (Ref:3320558)

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Originally Posted by Ken_T

A better looking coupe built to CN regs. Praga

http://pragaglobal.com/cars/praga-r1/#home

Not sure it's build to CN regs, just crash tested to them?

TR. · 20 Oct 2013, 23:18 (Ref:3320737)

Bit of a dumb question but does anyone know what CN actually means?

Is the Honda K20 mandatory for CN cars ( as all cars in SPEED Euroseries have)? As the R1 has the 2.0 F4R the same as Formula Renault 2.0. Things like legality panels behind the rear wheels I thought were mandatory in CN but the Praga's are open, wrong wing endplate sizes and different size wheels/tires etc. They had their own class when racing in SPEED series at Spa afew weeks ago but whether that was for championship reasons or technical I don't know.

CTD · 21 Oct 2013, 06:25 (Ref:3320832)

The Praga should not be seen as a CN prototype, but more a race car like the Aquila.
A racing car you can buy to race more-or-less open regulation races.
When you read the Praga site, it gives the impression that the car is crash tested after CN standards as a safety measure, and not a regulation demand.

ger80 · 21 Oct 2013, 07:52 (Ref:3320864)

The Honda engine is not mandatory for CN, just the best choice. Some series might have actually spec'ed it, like some F3 series run spec engines.

Speed-King · 21 Oct 2013, 08:05 (Ref:3320872)

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Originally Posted by TR.

Bit of a dumb question but does anyone know what CN actually means?

C simply means "sportscar" per the 1980s alphabetical classification (just as in "Group C"). N means Group N and refers to the engines used in these cars.

TR. · 21 Oct 2013, 20:34 (Ref:3321279)

Thank you for the information guys

silente · 5 Nov 2013, 13:17 (Ref:3327507)

This one looks much better than the previous posted one

http://www.italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=42254&cat=21

unfortunately the article is only in italian, but it basically says that Oreca is working on a CN2 car, because this marked is experiencing a "boom" in latest years.

I have worked myself on these cars for some time and i have to say they are pretty good to drive and work on, regulations are pretty free. Moreover they are pretty fast too, in Spa for example they are definitive faster than GT cars for example (pole when i was there was in the region of 2' 17'' xxx).

Engines are, as said, group N, so power in the region of 250 hp. I guess it is impossible to think to their use in Wec environment, but still they are very interesting.

Strange to read in the above article that they are planning to use a Chevy engine. Till now Honda was the only reasonable choice.

kober · 5 Nov 2013, 18:12 (Ref:3327614)

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Originally Posted by silente

This one looks much better than the previous posted one

http://www.italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=42254&cat=21

unfortunately the article is only in italian, but it basically says that Oreca is working on a CN2 car, because this marked is experiencing a "boom" in latest years.

The linked article is about , which is not exactly a CN car.

Speed-King · 25 Nov 2013, 11:47 (Ref:3336459)

LMP3 to replace Formula-LM in Europe and Asia by 2015

Rodger Davies · 25 Nov 2013, 12:39 (Ref:3336475)

Hallelujah, here's hoping the US take heed with this one to replace (or just remove) PCs too (as an open class I mean, not just the Oreca one).

Let's hope a few new engine possibilities crop up too.

silente · 25 Nov 2013, 12:49 (Ref:3336477)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Hallelujah

+1 !!

i was also looking forward for that.

It could be now interesting to know if they will use CN Regulations or not.

As far as i know CN cars can be used in 2015...

Speed-King · 25 Nov 2013, 12:58 (Ref:3336484)

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Let's hope a few new engine possibilities crop up too.

The admittedly somewhat garbled press release seems to say spec-power-train... going by the Pescarolo 02, I'd assume they'll stick with the Chevy LS3.

So I think they'll move away from CN-regulations. Though that might not be a big deal, as VdeV is also looking for a new and likely bigger engine.

silente · 25 Nov 2013, 13:03 (Ref:3336488)

http://www.italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=42514&cat=27

This is saying that they will use spec powertrain and tires...So it looks very much like what the VdeV and the Speed series already do...

canciaro · 25 Nov 2013, 14:39 (Ref:3336519)

They probably would have brought this over to the TUDOR Championship but im sure they would be quicker than the P class and there would be many angry DP owners...gotta keep the NASCAR guys happy..

Speed-King · 25 Nov 2013, 15:03 (Ref:3336531)

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Originally Posted by canciaro

They probably would have brought this over to the TUDOR Championship but im sure they would be quicker than the P class and there would be many angry DP owners...gotta keep the NASCAR guys happy..

This is a replacement for LMPC, why should they be faster than a TUSC-P-car??

jeast · 25 Nov 2013, 15:58 (Ref:3336555)

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Originally Posted by JLGarcia

Because NASCAR. Duh.

Well that is the way NASCAR works.... Not surprising that the tuscc won't get it.

HORNDAWG · 25 Nov 2013, 16:08 (Ref:3336563)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

This is a replacement for LMPC, why should they be faster than a TUSC-P-car??

Troll-ing! Just has to say something bad about it.

L.P.

jasonjessica09 · 25 Nov 2013, 17:51 (Ref:3336607)

Looks like we have LMPC's replacement for TUSK in 2017. Spec tire and engines but open chassis eh? Well maybe there will be both coupes and open tops? Will there be a fin in the back?

HORNDAWG · 25 Nov 2013, 18:46 (Ref:3336632)

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Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

Looks like we have LMPC's replacement for TUSK in 2017. Spec tire and engines but open chassis eh? Well maybe there will be both coupes and open tops? Will there be a fin in the back?

The ACO has been moving away from spyders in prototype classes, I would expect nothing different here. The cars for the new class I suspect will all be coupes, with some CN spyders being allowed in the short term. So by the time when/if we see them in TUSC (2017) they will all be coupes, I would imagine.

L.P.

pablocomics · 25 Nov 2013, 19:14 (Ref:3336638)

The C Junior Class got back

The ACO took too much time on the regullations of the LMP3, I remember those rumours from Endurance-Info long time ago. IMO that's a smart movement, it would tie national championships like the SCC, the CIP or the VdeV with the ACO chamnpionships.

The PRC WRC60 from Pedrazza could be considered a LMP3?

Speed-King · 25 Nov 2013, 19:52 (Ref:3336650)

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Originally Posted by pablocomics

The PRC WRC60 from Pedrazza could be considered a LMP3?

There is no official ruleset for P3 so far, so who knows. But I supposse it might be possible to adapt it... if the ACO allows cars without a roof.

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