[iV8SC14R010203] Clipsal 500, Adelaide -27 February-2 March - Page 5

naca · 2 Mar 2014, 07:07 (Ref:3373911)

But then they switch to 7Mate in NSW, Vic and SA! If less than say 3 laps till end of advertised distance they should just run to the end rather than finishing it early.

v8man · 2 Mar 2014, 07:07 (Ref:3373912)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Can't delay the news, it rates better, won't be a problem next year.

Agreed though, it sux, lots of safety car laps though with a big incident

Thats will be for the people who have foxtel, even the 6 races that 10 show if the News is due they will tell everyone you will now need to switch to Foxtel to see the rest of the race and then we will go for an ad for Foxtel

Also must get to MKR on time, even though that will run over itself

Matt · 2 Mar 2014, 07:08 (Ref:3373914)

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Originally Posted by naca

But then they switch to 7Mate in NSW, Vic and SA! If less than say 3 laps till end of advertised distance they should just run to the end rather than finishing it early.

I'd say if you're within 10 laps you should.

AnEmmoFan · 2 Mar 2014, 07:12 (Ref:3373915)

Is V8 Supercars a professional sport, not so judging from this weekend's effort.

Fiddling with race formats (again), announcements on overseas races (why do they persist with this?) and new 2015 TV deal, running out of time to complete the main race, ridiculous restart procedures, rule enforcement issues and very poor TV direction.

RBRA are probably at a disadvantage to other teams due to their high profile. Their pitstops are usually on camera so any errors are shown. Should penalties be applied based off TV commentary or should it be up to the local official. I bet that other car controllers touched their cars during the race and just did not get caught.

The TV coverage was crap, too many talking heads (interviews).

TSR · 2 Mar 2014, 07:16 (Ref:3373916)

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Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Garth Tander is the dirtiest racer ever. wont have a job soon

Agree 100%

raymond · 2 Mar 2014, 07:44 (Ref:3373919)

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Originally Posted by TSR

Agree 100%

Why?
Only asking as I didn't see the coverage...only just getting colour TV introduced here in NZ

Blackpearl · 2 Mar 2014, 07:52 (Ref:3373920)

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Originally Posted by raymond

Why?
Only asking as I didn't see the coverage...only just getting colour TV introduced here in NZ

You must have the MSNZ television.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Mar 2014, 07:54 (Ref:3373922)

Will they fix this?

The way it landed, it would be a surprise if the cage didnt cop a huge tweak!

Langers · 2 Mar 2014, 08:05 (Ref:3373926)

Two things:

(1) Brad Jones talking about expensive repairs - don't they have insurance for these sorts of incidents? Sure the excess may be a bit, but he shouldn't be bearing the full cost.

(2) Any chance Brighty will be asked to take a break? 2 big hits (incl. concussion at B12Hr) in very quick succession aren't good for long term mental health.

Blackpearl · 2 Mar 2014, 08:09 (Ref:3373927)

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Originally Posted by Langers

Two things:

(1) Brad Jones talking about expensive repairs - don't they have insurance for these sorts of incidents? Sure the excess may be a bit, but he shouldn't be bearing the full cost.

(2) Any chance Brighty will be asked to take a break? 2 big hits (incl. concussion at B12Hr) in very quick succession aren't good for long term mental health.

3 any chance gt could race fair and not be a dick. racing room etc.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Mar 2014, 08:13 (Ref:3373928)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Will they fix this?

The way it landed, it would be a surprise if the cage didnt cop a huge tweak!

Casper · 2 Mar 2014, 08:23 (Ref:3373931)

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Originally Posted by Langers

(2) Any chance Brighty will be asked to take a break? 2 big hits (incl. concussion at B12Hr) in very quick succession aren't good for long term mental health.

I was talking to someone concerning the 12 hour hit and there is a lot of unhappiness surrounding that. There was some surprise at how he survived the accident after they reviewed the in car video footage.

ForumNick · 2 Mar 2014, 08:45 (Ref:3373942)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Will they fix this?

The way it landed, it would be a surprise if the cage didnt cop a huge tweak!

Only the same way they 'fix' grandpa's axe...

A new Head & a new Haft.... good as new !!!!

**GTRMagic** · 2 Mar 2014, 09:05 (Ref:3373950)

chavez · 2 Mar 2014, 09:09 (Ref:3373951)

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Originally Posted by AnEmmoFan

RBRA are probably at a disadvantage to other teams due to their high profile. Their pitstops are usually on camera so any errors are shown. Should penalties be applied based off TV commentary or should it be up to the local official. I bet that other car controllers touched their cars during the race and just did not get caught.

Totally Agree. The officials seemingly only can call pit lane infringements (excluding speeding) when it is shown on TV.

When was he last time a team got pinged for having the rear wheels turning in a pit stop that was not shown on TV first?

naca · 2 Mar 2014, 09:12 (Ref:3373953)

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Originally Posted by chavez

Totally Agree. The officials seemingly only can call pit lane infringements (excluding speeding) when it is shown on TV.

When was he last time a team got pinged for having the rear wheels turning in a pit stop that was not shown on TV first?

Question, Are their marshal's who are judges of fact in the pitlane or do they just rely on the TV coverage ? From recent history I seem to think they just rely on the coverage.

peckstar · 2 Mar 2014, 11:41 (Ref:3373998)

how come that it can be explained multiple times on tv over the years that the car controllers job is to control the car and to not work on the car, But Roland is not aware of this rule

peckstar · 2 Mar 2014, 11:45 (Ref:3373999)

Jamie Whincup, 7th in the championship (after a 25 point penalty for the caruso incident) unusal place for him in recent times

Matt · 2 Mar 2014, 19:44 (Ref:3374095)

Also, I think it's about time the first turn chicane at Adelaide is removed...it just causes massive issues year after year.

What's stopping them from making T1 a big sweeper up onto Wakefield?

Samwhk · 2 Mar 2014, 20:23 (Ref:3374105)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Also, I think it's about time the first turn chicane at Adelaide is removed...it just causes massive issues year after year.

What's stopping them from making T1 a big sweeper up onto Wakefield?

They're probably worried it wouldn't look as cool on TV. You know, because that's more important than driver safety and all.

Matt · 2 Mar 2014, 20:28 (Ref:3374108)

I dunno, massive four-wheel drifts would look mega, imo.

peckstar · 2 Mar 2014, 20:40 (Ref:3374113)

isnt it about slowing the cars, because they would be going to quick at the next corner?

Matt · 2 Mar 2014, 20:56 (Ref:3374123)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

isnt it about slowing the cars, because they would be going to quick at the next corner?

Wasn't it for slowing F1 cars?

Also, why is pole position on the outside of T1? Shouldn't the pole sitter sit closest to the grandstands at Adelaide, as T1 is a left hander?

blizard · 2 Mar 2014, 21:36 (Ref:3374134)

Damien White's explanation on the restart penalties was a bit vague. 'We have radar [as a tool]' but didn't say they were actually caught at speeds of 'xx' & 'xx' by a radar gun before the acceleration zone. And then went on to say it looked obvious because a gap appeared from 2nd to 3rd. They may have crept up past 60km/h but they need actual proof (not appearance) - has anyone seen this?

And on the last restart there were a couple of cars that broke the straight line before the front car accelerated (from what I saw - rewind, watch again, so pretty sure), I think it was Rusty who lunged right which then triggered Frosty who quite obviously moved out of line. Didn't see any penalties there.

And Whincup's finger of god is a joke. Easy to argue no 'work' was done there.

Adding the slow restarts, three square pegs into one round hole, make for entertaining viewing. So if that was wanted above safety and fair competition then they are getting what they want. A little concerning but it was good viewing.

Samwhk · 2 Mar 2014, 21:43 (Ref:3374138)

Yeah, I was hoping for a bit more clarity around those penalties too, such as looking at the data traces from each car, SVG was doing 68kph before the AZ etc. Not "oh well, there was a bigger gap than there had been, so they must have been going faster".

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