Official Round 4: Chinese Grand Prix - Page 5

Knowlesy · 18 Apr 2010, 08:50 (Ref:2674671)

Erm Peter, how far behind are you?

I wonder if, during his seventh pirrhouette at Silverstone in 2002 Massa ever imagined doing TGF round the outside in the wet..

ralf fan · 18 Apr 2010, 08:51 (Ref:2674672)

Jenson Button is driving beautifully.

. Wonderful tire call. Again.

Hamilton drove well to get second.

Alonso as well.

. Best move he made was to get ahead of his road block teammate.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 18 Apr 2010, 08:51 (Ref:2674673)

A good race from Nico.

Knowlesy · 18 Apr 2010, 08:52 (Ref:2674674)

Hamilton and Alonso.

jab · 18 Apr 2010, 09:02 (Ref:2674679)

There are 2 things that spoil this for me:

1) Button's antics behind the safety car. That should be worthy of a penalty, easily

2) The safety car itself. That can only be pure race engineering. Hamilton and Alonso would've been nowhere without it, so it's an engineered result

So a very good race but a totally farcical result

Super Hans · 18 Apr 2010, 09:03 (Ref:2674681)

It was an enjoyable race, if a little crazy. Once again Button has proved himself a master of racecraft.

**Adam43** · 18 Apr 2010, 09:03 (Ref:2674682)

Farce-o-rama. I am going to sell my telly, again.

Super Hans · 18 Apr 2010, 09:06 (Ref:2674684)

Hamilton professes not to know why'd he'd be under investigation. Hmm...

OZ_HCR32 · 18 Apr 2010, 09:08 (Ref:2674687)

Yeh, the stewards better not penalise McLaren post race. If they had a problem with it, dish it out during the race. Even though i think Hamo probably deserves a stop-go and Button a warning

**Peter Mallett** · 18 Apr 2010, 09:09 (Ref:2674689)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Erm Peter, how far behind are you?

..

Yeah I just discovered from Twitter that the F1.com live timing was in fact asleep. I was about 5 laps behind the tv feed it seems.

Well done Jenson and a great drive fron Lewis again. What a team these two are becoming.

Big shout to Nico who really is showing Mickey-the-Shoe the way home now.

Not forgetting a congrats to Petrov on his first points. Vettel and Webber really can't make those cars work in the wet it seems. Or was it a dry settings gamble?

ralf fan · 18 Apr 2010, 09:11 (Ref:2674690)

So TGF really got a schooling by the younger boys in the wet. But still he is 41 and learning about the tires so we can't really say anything.

Super Hans · 18 Apr 2010, 09:12 (Ref:2674691)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ralf fan

So TGF really got a schooling by the younger boys in the wet. But still he is 41 and learning about the tires so we can't really say anything.

You should be grateful just to have him back.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 18 Apr 2010, 09:17 (Ref:2674700)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab

There are 2 things that spoil this for me:

1) Button's antics behind the safety car. That should be worthy of a penalty, easily

2) The safety car itself. That can only be pure race engineering. Hamilton and Alonso would've been nowhere without it, so it's an engineered result

So a very good race but a totally farcical result

Don't agree with point 1 but certainly agree with point 2, what was that full course yellow for?

marcel82 · 18 Apr 2010, 09:18 (Ref:2674702)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab

There are 2 things that spoil this for me:

1) Button's antics behind the safety car. That should be worthy of a penalty, easily

2) The safety car itself. That can only be pure race engineering. Hamilton and Alonso would've been nowhere without it, so it's an engineered result

So a very good race but a totally farcical result

exactly what I thought. I think Button deserved his win though, but Hamilton en Alonso would've probably been nowhere near the front without the "debris caution".

jab · 18 Apr 2010, 09:18 (Ref:2674703)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Don't agree with point 1 but certainly agree with point 2, what was that full course yellow for?

A tiny piece of Toro Rosso front wing that was on the outside of a corner

NPP · 18 Apr 2010, 09:18 (Ref:2674704)

Cracking race with lots of good driving, second SC was strange though

Fox89 · 18 Apr 2010, 09:20 (Ref:2674707)

Great race! Not sure about that safety car, though we've seen it before for a bit of debris. I wonder if the fact it was wet made them a bit more jumpy? Where was that debris anyway? I thought it was in the pit lane at first.

Of the two McLaren boys I still think Hamilton is the better in terms of raw driving ability, but Jenson has more maturity and a better racing brain. And in these first few races that's been vital for Jenson.

Red Bull were really surprising, they had so much more trouble getting past slower cars then the McLarens. Due to a more dry setup maybe?

Mekola · 18 Apr 2010, 09:20 (Ref:2674708)

First points for Petrov, in a rather good race for him.
Alas, Bruno finished in front of Karun again.

strider · 18 Apr 2010, 09:24 (Ref:2674713)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Hans

You should be grateful just to have him back.

Sorry, don't have that feeling. I never did like the guy, but I'm actually feeling a little sorry for him at the moment.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 18 Apr 2010, 09:25 (Ref:2674714)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab

A tiny piece of Toro Rosso front wing that was on the outside of a corner

I saw that but was that enough to call for a full course yellow? From the TV picture it didn't appear to be on the racing line.

marcel82 · 18 Apr 2010, 09:25 (Ref:2674715)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Hans

You should be grateful just to have him back.

why exactly? are we fans getting a share of the merchandising profits?

he hasn't starred in any of the races so far, but he has been drawing attention from his team-mate who's outpaced him at every race so we've seen so far. they could've put just about anyone else in that car, we'd have never known the distance?

OZ_HCR32 · 18 Apr 2010, 09:25 (Ref:2674716)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Vettel and Webber really can't make those cars work in the wet it seems. Or was it a dry settings gamble?

I think its just a matter of track position and using their tyres trying to recover from bad pit calls and a few bumps/stumbles. Their pace was fine...but like a few have been saying, they showed they dont have dominant oace to simpy drive through the field, they have had to capitalise in strong quali positions and not be challenged by Macs or Fezz

jab · 18 Apr 2010, 09:26 (Ref:2674717)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I saw that but was that enough to call for a full course yellow? From the TV picture it didn't appear to be on the racing line.

Exactly

And a few people are missing Super Hans' sarcasm here...

Fox89 · 18 Apr 2010, 09:26 (Ref:2674719)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I saw that but was that enough to call for a full course yellow? From the TV picture it didn't appear to be on the racing line.

That's the point!. It was not enough for a full course yellow and SC, and it was just put out to make the race more exciting.

...allegedly

**bjohnsonsmith** · 18 Apr 2010, 09:30 (Ref:2674723)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox89

That's the point!. It was not enough for a full course yellow and SC, and it was just put out to make the race more exciting.

...allegedly

For sure and it took those Chinese "track marshalls" long enough to get there and clean it up.

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