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15 Nov 2022, 12:52 (Ref:4133840) | #101 | ||
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Verstappen put Hamilton in one of those situations again in Brazil, but Hamilton has had enough and realised that he needs to choose to crash in those situations otherwise Verstappen will just keep doing it to him. Verstappen has the psychological upper hand in their battles, and Hamilton is trying to eliminate that. It is a bit like Prost turning in on Senna in Suzuka 1989. I actually think Senna's move was probably okay on that occasion, but Prost did it because Senna had pulled more aggressive moves in the past. As for Leclerc, I think he is more like Nigel Mansell, and pulls off these risky overtakes just thinking that he can do it, rather than because he is trying to pressure the other driver into backing off. It makes Leclerc by far the most entertaining driver to watch on the grid right now, but is also why he isn't yet as complete a driver as Hamilton or Verstappen. |
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15 Nov 2022, 12:55 (Ref:4133842) | #102 | |||
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To me, Hamilton's defence was clearly "I'll leave you no space" on a genuine overtaking maneuver so we crash. He takes some of the responsibility in that regard. I've seen a lot of comparison to the Ocon Vs. Verstappen incident in 2018 - and they are very similar. On both occasions the attacking driver could have backed out but the defending driver could have also done more/given more space and taken less risks that their own race. Who was it a few laps later that was given space and the move was pulled off perfectly? Stroll and someone? That's how it should be done when you have two drivers that race each other respectfully (maybe a rarity for Stroll ) Quote:
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15 Nov 2022, 13:18 (Ref:4133845) | #103 | |||
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I'm not sure I'm 'blaming' Leclerc as such, he's an exciting racer and goes for it. I personally saw it as a 'risk taken, risk didn't pay off' racing incident. We had a lot of debate on here a few months back about the guy on the inside leaving room for the guy on the outside, and some of that I took issue with. But yes, it's all just debate and we do see things a little differently on occasion... |
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15 Nov 2022, 13:25 (Ref:4133846) | #104 | ||
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15 Nov 2022, 13:27 (Ref:4133847) | #105 | ||
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15 Nov 2022, 13:30 (Ref:4133848) | #106 | ||
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Fernando seems to get a bit of the Danny affect, where he can be bang average and everyone gives him credit for being awesome. |
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15 Nov 2022, 13:40 (Ref:4133849) | #107 | ||
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Personally I think Fernando has been on a completely different level to Daniel this season. The latter has been embarrassing for most of it.
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15 Nov 2022, 13:46 (Ref:4133851) | #108 | |
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Honestly I think the only people on Daniels level are the Ferrari pit wall. But I stand by my point - everyone says how great Fernando is doing. Yet he's being outscored by Ocon, has once again fallen out with yet another team, and is getting credit for it.
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15 Nov 2022, 14:29 (Ref:4133858) | #109 | ||
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I find Alonso intriguing - he seems to be very good at self promotion - there is this aura of him doing great amazing things but being let down by outside factors. I guess not being at the front end makes it easier to do this as you can hid behind car performance
I also believe his Ferrari cars (except 2014) were not as bad as he claims - they were still great cars even if not on level of Red Bull at the time - but there seems to be a narrative of him dragging a Williams 2019 level car to the world championship fight One thing I have noticed about Alonso is as soon as he leaves a team , they get better - Mcclaren after 2018, Ferrari after 2014 - makes me wonder what kind of influence he has in a team and how good is he at developing a team/car. Do not get me wrong he is a phenomenal talent and one of the best ever in F1 but I think a lot about him is exaggerated and difficult to prove otherwise as he has not really mattered at the front end in 10 years now |
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15 Nov 2022, 16:41 (Ref:4133871) | #110 | ||
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15 Nov 2022, 20:12 (Ref:4133887) | #111 | ||
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Interesting isn't it? Fernando is one of those F1 'characters' while his teammate is young and, well, fairly average, I'd say. So I suppose Alonso should be giving him a hiding week in, week out. That it doesn't often happen says something, I guess. But I think that when he does hang up his helmet, F1 will be all the poorer for that (as it will be with Vettel at the end of this season).
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15 Nov 2022, 20:30 (Ref:4133890) | #112 | ||
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Regardless the comparison, I totally agree. Norris was riding the kerb and bounced up and down, and clearly was not in control. |
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15 Nov 2022, 20:35 (Ref:4133891) | #113 | ||
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He is indeed great at self promotion. But, I consider him one of the best drivers on the grid. Maybe not the best F1 driver, but the best all round talent. He has impressed in Indycar and he has impressed in sportscars and also done quite well in rallying. The breadth of talent that takes is to me greater than some superstar of F1. Is he sometimes over hyping himself? Sure, that's one reason he it great at so many kinds of racing, and some others are not. A lot is in the head. |
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15 Nov 2022, 21:11 (Ref:4133895) | #114 | ||
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https://twitter.com/formulawill13/st...Sj4xP_lJw&s=09
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15 Nov 2022, 22:31 (Ref:4133898) | #115 | ||
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Even on the Ocon comparison, Max is further alongside much earlier in the corner using the track markings as a distance guide. |
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16 Nov 2022, 00:50 (Ref:4133900) | #116 | ||
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Sorry but if you don't think Alonso is in as good a form as he has been in his career then maybe you haven't watched much F1 this year.
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16 Nov 2022, 00:51 (Ref:4133901) | #117 | ||
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The only person that can be ranked as low or lower than Danny Ricc this year is Latifi. But I feel for the guy, never going to be a WDC but was doing alright against Russell last year. Then AD happened, with the death threats and abuse from rabid feral fans and that really rattled him. Coupled with a car not to his liking and he was on a hiding to nothing.
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16 Nov 2022, 08:58 (Ref:4133913) | #118 | ||
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Lance finally got to grips with the old car and became fine. Not great, but fine. Acceptable. But with the new cars he's struggled badly. |
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16 Nov 2022, 09:19 (Ref:4133917) | #119 | ||
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16 Nov 2022, 09:32 (Ref:4133920) | #120 | |||
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All very well, but Max knew what was going to happen if Hamilton didn't move out of his way and made it happen anyway. Further debate is actually pretty pointless on this one. |
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16 Nov 2022, 13:53 (Ref:4133943) | #121 | |||
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For what it is worth, my own thoughts are that over the season there has usually been very little between the two of them. Without checking, my gut feel is that Alonso has had more mechanical breakdowns than Ocon. Ocon has the occasional "off" weekend, but perhaps there have been less of those this season compared with last . I think Alonso has been driving well, without ever actually destroying his teammate. In the latter part of this season the Alpine car has often been best of the rest behind the 3 top teams. |
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16 Nov 2022, 21:45 (Ref:4133974) | #122 | ||
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I feel like he's made it out of Q1 a lot more than he used to this year. Seb on his retirement tour has smashed him though especially in the second half of the season as the car got better. Alonso I think will embarrass him in 2023
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17 Nov 2022, 12:33 (Ref:4134027) | #123 | |||
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"We had not envisaged the situation that unfolded on the last lap and we had not agreed a strategy for such a scenario before the race." - On the face of it - are you really telling me that Red Bull had never envisaged a situation that may see their drivers switch positions in a race? Have they really forgotten every time in the past when such a situation has happened to them? And specifically, when Verstappen said "I told you already last summer. You guys don't ask that again to me, ok? Are we clear about that?" then clearly they have considered the situation in the past, which is when Verstappen told them his position. "Regretfully, Max was only informed at the final corner of the request to give up position without all the necessary information being relayed." - I think they need to go back and check their own radio messages. Sadly, while I agree with the sentiment in the second half of their statement, it is hard to accept a moral stance from Red Bull when it is preceded by a blatant lie in public. |
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18 Nov 2022, 08:47 (Ref:4134098) | #125 | |||
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Sergio Perez has denied claims he crashed deliberately during Formula 1 qualifying at the Monaco Grand Prix Asked on Thursday in Abu Dhabi if he had crashed purposely in Monaco, Perez denied it. - "“You can review the whole lap and you can already see that I nearly crashed already in Turn 1. I’m just giving it everything, it is the last run of Q3. People just make make mistakes, you know. And that’s really it when you’re chasing the laptime." When asked about rumours that Red Bull had carried out an internal investigation into the Monaco crash and Perez had then admitted to doing it deliberately, Perez replied: “the rumour is wrong”. |
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