2017 Argentine touring car championships

[Matt]

Oh, I enjoy the series, I just find the race distance laughable for a twin driver race.

[loon]

great to see Pechito back

[NaBUru38]

It's longer than the Blancpain GT Sprint and Pirelli World Challenge SprintX...

Anyway, it's not an endurance race, it's an all-star race.

Speaking of which, the Turismo Carretera is considering a 1000 mile / 10 hour race.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

It's longer than the Blancpain GT Sprint and Pirelli World Challenge SprintX...

Anyway, it's not an endurance race, it's an all-star race.

Speaking of which, the Turismo Carretera is considering a 1000 mile / 10 hour race.

Both of which are advertised as "Sprint" races.

[NaBUru38]

Emanuel Moriatis (Ford) won the Turismo Carretera race at La Pedrera, his first win since 2010.

1. Emanuel Moriatis (Ford)
2. AgustÃ*n Canapino (Chevrolet)
3. Gastón Mazzacane (Chevrolet)
4. Norberto Fontana (Chevrolet)
5. Facundo Ardusso (Torino)
6. Juan MartÃ*n Trucco (Dodge)
7. Carlos Okulovich (Torino)
8. Christian Ledesma (Chevrolet)
9. Jonatan Castellano (Dodge)
10. Emiliano Spataro (Torino)
11. Omar MarÃ*nez (Chevrolet)
12. Juan Manuel Silva (Ford)

[loon]

Gaston Mazzacane seems to be doing very well this season

[NaBUru38]

Yes, Mazzacane has qualified again to the Gold Cup (playoffs). This was his third podium in TC.

[NaBUru38]

This Sunday at the Autódromo Gálvez in Buenos Aires:

08:55 - Abarth Competizione
09:45 - Formula Renault 2.0
11:50 - Super TC 2000 - 200 km
14:00 - Stock Car Brasil - race 1 (40 minutes)
15:10 - Stock Car Brasil - race 2 (40 minutes)

[NaBUru38]

By the way, I just learned that Peugeot left the Stock Car Brasil this season, so all cars are Chevrolet Cruze.

[NaBUru38]

The race start got delayed for rain.

In Uruguay, TyC Sports has not aired a single minute of the event.

[FIRE]

RENAULT
Happy for the Ford team.

Shame there were so many yellow flags.

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

By the way, I just learned that Peugeot left the Stock Car Brasil this season, so all cars are Chevrolet Cruze.

Yep, but does it really make any difference?
Didn't know they had a race in Argentina.

Race 1:
https://youtu.be/ha6gBla1JcA

Race 2:
https://youtu.be/-vJBW4EXxjU

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

The race start got delayed for rain.

In Uruguay, TyC Sports has not aired a single minute of the event.

https://youtu.be/1s_8bf0NXqU

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Yep, but does it really make any difference?

From a branding perspective, yes indeed.

In Argentina there's lots of diehard Ford or Chevrolet fans, same as in football.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

From a branding perspective, yes indeed.

In Argentina there's lots of diehard Ford or Chevrolet fans, same as in football.

True, but not sure Peugeot has the same amount of fans.

[S griffin]

Better get used to those races at Buenos Aires before F1 potentially ruins it

[NaBUru38]

The Turismo Nacional will have a two-driver race at the Galvez in Buenos Aires on November 12.

Despite the huge grid, the race will be held at the number 9 course (3.3 km, including the "mixto" with the "tobogán").

Notable entries include:

o- Jonatan Castellano / Damián Fineschi (Chevrolet)
o- Norberto Fontana / Nicolás Trosset (Chevrolet)
o- Carlos Okulovich / José Manuel Urcera (Ford)
o- Facundo Chapur / Pablo Piumetto (Peugeot)
o- Christian Ledesma / Matias Machuca (Citroën)
o- Ernesto Bessone / Juan Pablo Bessone (Toyota)
o- Leonel PernÃ*a / Mariano PernÃ*a (Honda)
o- Leonel Larrauri / Facundo Ardusso (Honda)
o- Luciano Ventricelli / Juan Marcos Angelini (Volkswagen)
o- MatÃ*as Cohen / Martin Basso (Mitsubishi)
o- Tomás Urretavizcaya / Roberto Urretavizcaya (Kia)

Roberto Urretavizcaya is 60 years old, and won 10 Turismo Carretera races from 1989 to 2002.

[FIRE]

Interesting names.

[NaBUru38]

There are three generations of Ernesto Bessone, born in 1923, 1958 and 1982.

I can't confirm it, but I think that the grandson isn't racing anymore, and this is the son.

[loon]

Is Matias Rossi the only driver to win in TC,TN, TC2000 and Toprace?

[NaBUru38]

Do you mean race wins or championships?

There are multiple drivers with race wins in TC, TC2000, TR and TN.

About championships, Ernesto Bessone II won titles at those four, plus the Supercart and Club Argentino de Pilotos.

Cocho López (father of Cochito) won the TC2000, TN, Formula 2 and Club Argentino de Pilotos, plus he was runner-up in the South American Supertouring Championship.

Luis Rubén di Palma won the TC, TC 2000, Formula 1 Argentina, Sport Prototipo and Supercart.

René Zanatta won Turismo Nacional and multiple road motorcycling championships.

[loon]

thanks for the info

[NaBUru38]

You're welcome!

[NaBUru38]

After having trouble with Turismo Nacional, now Uruguayan driver Mauricio Lambiris heated discussion with another drivers during Turismo Carretera qualifying, and was penalized with $AR 50,000 (US$ 3,000).

For next year, a new Nascar-style pickup truck championship is planned. Only Turismo Carretera drivers will be allowed. Races will be held during TC Mouras events at La Plata, which usually clash with Super TC2000.

The Turismo Nacional event at Buenos Aires will have two drivers per car, but no driver changes. They will do separate races.

[loon]

is there conflict between the various series, lots of clashing dates

[NaBUru38]

Argentina has too many championships, indeed.