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Old 31 Jul 2022, 12:33 (Ref:4121178)   #101
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this weekend is different circumstance because for some reasons BMW got thier mojo back but under normal circumstances it would have been again a procession
That sounds like a retreat to the motte if ever I saw one.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 12:36 (Ref:4121179)   #102
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Ginettas having proper racing again
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 12:40 (Ref:4121180)   #103
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I’m well aware of that. Anyone got any ideas as to why BTC Racing are struggling so much with it?
In terms of the race - I'm not entirely sure that BTC Racing's performance was that markedly different to Speedworks'.

All 3 BTC cars were making progress up the field before non-performance issues moved them back.
Collard also made similar levels of progress - but Butcher lost places.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 13:09 (Ref:4121184)   #104
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5 second penalty for Jackson after contact with Edwards. Thought he may have been the cause from the brief shot we got!

No reply of that, nor the Plato incident, nor the Cook one.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 13:22 (Ref:4121187)   #105
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Powell just took out two cars in two corners!
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 13:47 (Ref:4121189)   #106
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Powell just took out two cars in two corners!
Really expect anything else from a Hard driver? He also made contact with a car into turn 1 aswell so that's 3.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 13:49 (Ref:4121191)   #107
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Tingram 218
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 13:56 (Ref:4121193)   #108
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I’ve messed up my sky box and the races haven’t recorded. Where can I view them again please?
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 14:00 (Ref:4121195)   #109
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I’ve messed up my sky box and the races haven’t recorded. Where can I view them again please?
You've still got chance for R2 on ITV+1.

In due course - they will appear here - https://www.itv.com/btcc/btcc-2022-races
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 16:26 (Ref:4121210)   #110
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Don't think today has been a particularly great advert for BTCC. Top 5 in all 3 races miles ahead of anyone with the rest of the field all spread out aswell. Not very fun to watch. Clear bmw advantage is a joke aswell. But then toca now have their own way with a bmw driver leading the championship

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Old 31 Jul 2022, 16:31 (Ref:4121211)   #111
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Still not sure how I feel like a convicted drink driver being sponsored by an alcohol company. Hopefully he won't down the entire bottle of champagne and drive home if he carries on and wins.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 16:33 (Ref:4121212)   #112
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Nice to see Max Chilton having a solid debut weekend.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 16:34 (Ref:4121213)   #113
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Still not sure how I feel like a convicted drink driver being sponsored by an alcohol company. Hopefully he won't down the entire bottle of champagne and drive home if he carries on and wins.
Yeah I still really can't like him for that reason. Shame, as he's a great driver. Well, on the track at least...
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 16:43 (Ref:4121214)   #114
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Good weekend for the BMWs - they needed that after all the restrictions being thrown at them, if TOCA want to equalise everything then it needs to work both ways, getting a little tiring people moaning, especially at the one track they still appear to have an advantage on but it was all ok the years Honda had an advantage at Thruxton.

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Old 31 Jul 2022, 16:45 (Ref:4121217)   #115
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we have a new championship leader

Turkington 227
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 16:51 (Ref:4121218)   #116
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Nice to see Max Chilton having a solid debut weekend.
Says everything you need to know that most notable thing to happen to Tom Chilton all weekend was the commentator getting his name wrong.
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so Hill revelaed it was team orders to go pass Turkington
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Says everything you need to know that most notable thing to happen to Tom Chilton all weekend was the commentator getting his name wrong.
Whilst Lloyd went from a double win to zero points.

Feel for Cook as well - imagine it'll be even worse at Snett if the engine struggles continue.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 17:00 (Ref:4121221)   #119
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Interesting to note - bar one 6th place and one retirement, Turkington has finished every race since Brands Hatch in the top 4.
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Interesting to hear Hill complain about Sutton's driving standards today, when you look at the front of his own car in R1....

He seems to be adopting the Jordan role in that team at the moment.
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Old 31 Jul 2022, 17:08 (Ref:4121223)   #121
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so Hill revelaed it was team orders to go pass Turkington
Probably because they didn't want two wrecked cars.
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Probably because they didn't want two wrecked cars.
It's a simple risk vs reward decision for WSR in the moment, considering Turkington's title bid.

At the time - he was in position for 15 points. WSR would rather see Hill risk his points than Turkington.

Attempt to pass Butcher - potential gain of 2 points vs potential loss of 15 points.
Let Hill attack Butcher - potential gain of 2 points vs loss of 2 points.
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Kellett disqualified from his Ginetta win.

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uplo...es-Kellett.pdf

...meaning it's an Am 1-2!
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Kellett disqualified from his Ginetta win.

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...meaning it's an Am 1-2!
saw that coming, delighted for colin white aka mr ginetta
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Clear bmw advantage is a joke aswell. But then toca now have their own way with a bmw driver leading the championship
It always amazes me that people trot this out every season, but still return to watch.

Here's how a typical BTCC season pans out:
Early season temperatures and circuits suit FWD. The early championship leaders are in FWD cars.
Then the handicap starts to take effect, the weather gets warmer and we visit Oulton, Croft and Knockhill.
At this point, RWD starts to get the upper hand and people start complaining about favouritism and RWD dominance.
Then we head back south, handicaps start to be felt by RWD cars and the title goes down to the wire.


I'll save you the hassle of watching the start of next season - On the 14th August 2023, RWD cars will have just had three strong rounds and people will complain about their advantage.
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