GT World Challenge Europe 2024

[chunterer]

Pratt & Miller expecting to hit their 2 year, 20 car delivery target.

GM expecting cars to be running outside the states by the end of this season. Possibly Europe.

[GT3_Fan]

Yeah I read that article too. Chevrolet Corvettes in GT WC Europe in 2025 me thinks :-) Fingers crossed for N'Ring 24 too. DTM also would be awesome.

[flatlandsman]

From what I have seen so far these customer Corvettes are utter garbage, one team has dumped and run, and a few others are seemingly all at sea, even TF Sport are struggling in WEC and they are a damn good team, seems to me the Mustang is a better bet for hitting the ground running.

The Factory cars seems perfectly fine, obviously.... strange that.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

From what I have seen so far these customer Corvettes are utter garbage, one team has dumped and run, and a few others are seemingly all at sea, even TF Sport are struggling in WEC and they are a damn good team, seems to me the Mustang is a better bet for hitting the ground running.

The Factory cars seems perfectly fine, obviously.... strange that.

Technically not factory cars.... Run by a race team out of the P&M shop.

[flatlandsman]

So basically a works car then!! I dont really see a difference unless you want to be pedantic, either way those cars are quick the customer stuff so far has been not much to shout about, so much so a few have dumped them, and that has to be a worry.

[NaBUru38]

"Technically correct, the best kind of correct"

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

So basically a works car then!! I dont really see a difference unless you want to be pedantic, either way those cars are quick the customer stuff so far has been not much to shout about, so much so a few have dumped them, and that has to be a worry.

A few have dumped them?

One owner sold his...

[flatlandsman]

That is not a great start for a new programme though is it? However much of a prima donna he is!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

That is not a great start for a new programme though is it? However much of a prima donna he is!

New cars have teething issues. The M4 GT3 was 'steady' when it debuted in 2022. The Mustang has had developmental issues too which is possibly why Dinamic didn't end up running them in this series. Multimatic and Proton have taken on the donkey work which will benefit any team that buys or leases any next season.

Similarly, surely it is far better to have a factory blessed mob like P&M and selected associate teams sort the Vette out before making them more widely available? Having one or two in GTWCE late this season is s sensible ploy.

[flatlandsman]

I think really when you see a factory car doing exceptionally well out the box, and the customer cars being little better than backmarkers, I would be very concerned, BMW, Porsche Ferrari et al dont seem top have the same issue. Even in Hypercar!!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

I think really when you see a factory car doing exceptionally well out the box, and the customer cars being little better than backmarkers, I would be very concerned, BMW, Porsche Ferrari et al dont seem top have the same issue. Even in Hypercar!!

Several of the GT3 cars were not stellar to begin with. Some of them were bery amateur unfriendly until developed or even until Evo spec...

I think it's very unfair and wide of the mark to suggest the Vette is a failure.

[flatlandsman]

I think the issue is that the customer cars so far have been so far away from the factory ones, OK there are not stacks of them.

These guys should know what they are doing no? They have been building Corvettes for decades and have made the factory car very quick, if even pro teams cannot get a handle on them, yes it could be the drivers, but it also suggests the car is either very poor or very difficult to set up.

Was listening to Pittard yesterday talking about this very thing, he drove the 296 and the 911 last year and said both were very much harder to drive whereas the Aston he is in now is easier, making a car easier to drive helps everyone, not just the amateurs you know. And Corvette surely should be able to manage this?

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

I think the issue is that the customer cars so far have been so far away from the factory ones, OK there are not stacks of them.

These guys should know what they are doing no? They have been building Corvettes for decades and have made the factory car very quick, if even pro teams cannot get a handle on them, yes it could be the drivers, but it also suggests the car is either very poor or very difficult to set up.

Was listening to Pittard yesterday talking about this very thing, he drove the 296 and the 911 last year and said both were very much harder to drive whereas the Aston he is in now is easier, making a car easier to drive helps everyone, not just the amateurs you know. And Corvette surely should be able to manage this?

Maybe they will once thet've figured everything out!

[Marcel ten Caat]

All one can hope for is that Corvette will have proper customer racing support network in Europe once they really start selling cars. If not, why would a team even consider a Corvette for a European program.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Marcel ten Caat

All one can hope for is that Corvette will have proper customer racing support network in Europe once they really start selling cars. If not, why would a team even consider a Corvette for a European program.

Is Oli Gavin still heavily involved with Corvette, based in Germany? He would be a good go-between.

And for the 2nd point. There will be plenty interested. The manufacturers know what is required to fulfil product support.

There was plenty of customer support in the GT1 days?

[airbusA346]

Iron Dames have withdrawn from the Spa 24H in the wake of Bovy's crash at Watkins Glen.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...-24-hours.html

[NaBUru38]

Boo! Seriously, couldn't they hire another driver?

[v8supes]

Yeah i was surprised at that tbh. Even if it meant that they needed to move classes.

Anyway, if the weather forecast is correct then it looks like we may have yet another endurance race affected by weather. Hopefully the Saturday night/Sunday morning forecast is not accurate

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Boo! Seriously, couldn't they hire another driver?

Which female driver with adequate experience would be available at such short notice?

[flatlandsman]

I am sure someone like Lilou, Kat Legge would jump at the chance.

Furthermore for this weekend I actually enjoy GT4 more, and would like to see the grid of maybe 40-45 GT3 and then a multiclass element of maybe 20-25 GT4 teams. It would make for more jeopardy and also add in that factor of lapping.

I have never understood why SRO does not do this, it works well in Brit GT at a much lower standard of driver, and in the endurance races at tracks that can contain that grid size I see no reason why it could not be done? DO GT$ have any long distance races in this series?

[airbusA346]

Brad Schumacher (#38 HAAS RT Audi R8) has had to withdraw from the Spa 24H after being diagnosed with Epstein-Barr Virus.

https://www.gt-world-challenge-austr...f-spa-24-debut

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

I am sure someone like Lilou, Kat Legge would jump at the chance.

Furthermore for this weekend I actually enjoy GT4 more, and would like to see the grid of maybe 40-45 GT3 and then a multiclass element of maybe 20-25 GT4 teams. It would make for more jeopardy and also add in that factor of lapping.

I have never understood why SRO does not do this, it works well in Brit GT at a much lower standard of driver, and in the endurance races at tracks that can contain that grid size I see no reason why it could not be done? DO GT$ have any long distance races in this series?

I also prefer mixed class GT3 and GT4. I understand the dilemma SRO has, because if you have 55+ GT3 cars available, why not use them. But I do prefer the multi-class aspect of endurance racing.

[GregUK]

Originally Posted by J Jay

Which female driver with adequate experience would be available at such short notice?

Doriane Pin - already part of the Iron Dames programme - although she is a Silver whereas Bovy is Bronze.

[Akrapovic]

Pin is not back to full strength after a training incident. She missed Le Mans. Since then has done shorter F1 Academy/FRECA races, but not endurance events.

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