Octagon/BHL's future (merge) - Page 5

BillStenning · 16 Jul 2003, 14:21 (Ref:662861)

Interesting thread.. not much mention of Cadwell on it's own.... any guesses how much of the £70m total Cadwell would command? Can't be THAT much of it, surely.

PaulSands · 16 Jul 2003, 14:26 (Ref:662866)

less likelyhood of Cadwell being prime development opportunity (trust me green belt seems to mean nothing if you "know" the right councillor) as it really is middle of nowhere so it should hopefully be relatively cheaper

BillStenning · 16 Jul 2003, 17:19 (Ref:663039)

Something in the £3m to £4m range??? Does that sound reasonable?

SPOONERBORO · 17 Jul 2003, 07:59 (Ref:663636)

shame we cant buy some circuits!!?

maybe advertise a supporters association accross autosports, mcn, motosport news, web forums!!

£1000 x 10000 people makes what 10million by my calculations, football clubs have done it, cant we? anyone with some sensible business nonse out there, that could steer us into owning our own circuits or some of them ?

better than driving past westfield bends housing estate, or old hall plaza etc etc

just look at justin wilson!! £500 minimum per share and that bought him 1.5 million i think it was to buy him an f1 drive!! now thats a gamble he may not drive after next season if nobody can build him his own long boat!!

PaulSands · 17 Jul 2003, 11:02 (Ref:663739)

Motorsport News is reporting that the BARC are trying to purchase the circuits calling upon the resources of wealthy enthusiasts from what I can gather..I need to read it again and see who the names mentioned are so we can suggest this idea

QuickBrownFox · 21 Jul 2003, 12:39 (Ref:667064)

I'm an enthusiast, and would willingly donate to the fund. Problem is, with the amount I could stump up, there would need to be a lot of enthusiasts out there.

Anyone fancy starting a "Ten-Tenths Circuit Rescue" fund?

Tim.

speedy king · 21 Jul 2003, 13:35 (Ref:667144)

Yeah

speedy king · 21 Jul 2003, 13:35 (Ref:667146)

We need a site set up for this.......

Sim_Da_BTCC_Man · 21 Jul 2003, 17:09 (Ref:667403)

Quote:

Originally posted by QuickBrownFox
I'm an enthusiast, and would willingly donate to the fund. Problem is, with the amount I could stump up, there would need to be a lot of enthusiasts out there.

Anyone fancy starting a "Ten-Tenths Circuit Rescue" fund?

Tim.

Tim, All these kind of ideas can be forwarded to saveourcircuits@btccworld.com

We're looking at the possibilty of forming some kind of group.

**Craig** · 21 Jul 2003, 17:14 (Ref:667405)

hahahaha!!!!

Sorry Sim but do you really think you'd be taken seriously if you approached the owners of BHC and offered to buy them out...?!

I think perhaps the best thing you can do is get in contact with the BARC and support their bid

Sim_Da_BTCC_Man · 21 Jul 2003, 18:13 (Ref:667475)

LOL

I wasn't planning to buy them out, I was planning to start a support group (See previous post on the matter

)

Sim_Da_BTCC_Man · 21 Jul 2003, 18:15 (Ref:667481)

I expect more of you Craig, you should know that I cant be trusted with a can of pepsi, let alown a major company

**Craig** · 21 Jul 2003, 18:22 (Ref:667490)

*Start* a support group? I think you *need* a support group...!

Sim_Da_BTCC_Man · 21 Jul 2003, 19:23 (Ref:667543)

Quote:

Originally posted by Craig Antill
*Start* a support group? I think you *need* a support group...!

I'll remember that.

speedy king · 22 Jul 2003, 10:48 (Ref:668129)

Nah, he just needs help.....

Seriously though, i will support this...

PaulSands · 22 Jul 2003, 10:53 (Ref:668135)

would individual representations to the BARC carry any weight or would something under the ten-tenths banner be more effective?

speedy king · 22 Jul 2003, 11:26 (Ref:668168)

dunno, could try both?

Sim_Da_BTCC_Man · 22 Jul 2003, 20:33 (Ref:668768)

I think as a group you've got more chance to be honest.

redshoes · 22 Jul 2003, 20:42 (Ref:668772)

More chance of what exactly? You can send emails all you like, unless you've got a few million quid stuffed under your pillow your just dreaming.

Sim_Da_BTCC_Man · 22 Jul 2003, 20:47 (Ref:668778)

As the bud advert once said,

True.

We'll if the sale happens we're all screwed and powerless.

**bella** · 24 Jul 2003, 13:32 (Ref:670291)

just thought i'd post this from autosport.com:

Quote:

Marketing expert Tim Beadle, who led a consortium to buy the circuits being sold by Brands Hatch Circuits Ltd, has withdrawn his bid after reviewing a business overview of the venues, reports AUTOSPORT. Beadle believes that Brands Hatch, Oulton Park, Snetterton and Cadwell Park cannot be run at a profit. "I was only interested in them as a going concern, not to redevelop the sites," said Beadle. "But studying the numbers and locations, they really are only prime for redevelopment."

**Stephen Green** · 24 Jul 2003, 13:34 (Ref:670293)

Yes but in a later part of the same article (I think) Denis Carter of BARC says he doesn't agree with Tim.

**bella** · 24 Jul 2003, 13:35 (Ref:670295)

but i think it's fairly worrying that a potential investor only sees the land as being viable for development.

PaulSands · 25 Jul 2003, 08:05 (Ref:670883)

given the current state of the world economy and to a certain extent British Motorsport (too many championships fighting for a slice of the cake) nobody is going to make a huge profit (if any) running a circuit at this moment in time. This doesn't mean that it cant change, you only have to look at the sucessful meetings that Castle Combe runs...

**Stephen Green** · 25 Jul 2003, 08:26 (Ref:670893)

In some ways it's rather like running a fleet of trucks or an airline, you have to have your investment working as many hours of the day and as many days of the week as possible to maximise the return.

In other words, whoever buys the circuits will, if they are to keep them as motor racing circuits, have to have sucessful racing schools, conference facilities etc etc. Maybe even a change of planning consent to allow the occasional concert either after race meetings or during weekday evenings.

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