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The Porsche people are taking way too much space. The parking area behind the Jumbotron use to be accessible to anyone dropping off and setting up at turn 10A/10B. Great place to park your golf cart too. Now there's no parking spots near the track. The Porsche people even had IMSA people guarding the fenced area to keep people without special privileges from getting in. I spoke with Rick Humphrey about the situation in the paddock area and how they've destroyed the fan experience by blocking off the hot pit area with teams up against the fencing. He did say that they are aware of the issue and will work on trying to improve access to the hot pits next year. The decision to change the paddock area was requested by IMSA due too additional entries in the WeatherTech series but Road Atlanta did have a say. They just didn't expect the layout to be quite so close to the fences. The basic problem is simple. The Petit Le Mans is getting too popular, and the track is having a hard time accommodating everyone who's wanting to attend. This is true both from a viewer and participant standpoint. Let's face it though, racing is a for profit sport and tracks are trying to find every way possible to exploit an increase in fan participation. Better more fans than less. I remember all too well the bad days of Road Atlanta before the Petit Le Mans and Don Panoz. |
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I think the consensus is, more wealthy fans is better as far as the series and track are concerned (with the shared mother company anyway) - old-school, tent-camping spectators with a far more limited budget aren't really care for these days anymore....
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Well the tenters don't sponsor race cars. No race cars, no eyes, no value. More race cars, more eyes, more dollars.
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Let's not forget that IMSA racing was founded on the principle of ultimate fan participation. One ticket gets you all the action. No fans, no race series, no cars. The two players (Teams and Fans) work in a symbiotic relationship. Balance must be maintained.
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Good viewing of the whole track, places you could get photos without catch fencing and the cars 100s of metres away and no expensive grandstands spoiling the view for the ordinary punters who didn't have their ticket paid for as a corporate guest. I'd go back to Daytona anytime, but I doubt I'll ever go back to Le Mans, despite doing over 30 races in the past. |
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27 Jan 2023, 21:53 (Ref:4141465) | #108 | ||
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Glad I managed to get to one of the three runnings of a Super Sebring. Very envious of anyone attending this year however. |
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Yup, guess they'll have to rethink US racing. Spring with enough lead time means SE so Sebring. Guess they could try a club circuit somewhere but oh wait it's the FIA so they need fancy. March at Road Atlanta could work but weather is iffy and can be into the 80s but also drops below freezing. COTA has spring tornado risk but a bit warmer, and we've already seen it isn't a fan favorite. Next most southern main sportscar track is VIR I guess but it's in the middle of nowhere and not exactly FIA hospitality level.
Just again feels like the FIA takes the shotgun out and takes aim right at their own feet. I doubt any track would turn them away but LM takes a bit out of the time slots. Spring seems most reasonable for travel but they would need to be looking March or early April at the latest and East Coast only to be back for Spa. End of the year could work but they seem to be dedicated to the Asian swing then and again travel after LM That said, Road Atlanta in March and I would be there. Late March is TransAm and that has been wet more often than not, a bit more interesting with those cars but WEC would be fine with rain. |
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Oh and guess what it costs to camp at IMS? They made a big deal about allowing camping in the infield for the IMSA race this season. Tent camping ranges from $600 to $1000. That is bullshit. |
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My dream would be to have the 12 Hours of Sebring part of the WEC and the IMSA calendar. Not for the GT3 that will be in the WEC, just the Hypercar.
With such approach, we could have a pretty cool Hypercar/GTP grid For for sure, this is a dream.... |
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I sure would like to see FIA come the Road Atlanta. Mostly to have another race at my "home track". |
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Oh wow. Tthe Super Sebring was so good that the FIA and ACO thought it had to be replaced by more Middle East races.
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Last nigth John Doohan on RLM pretty much confirmed another IMSA endurance round @ Indy on Sat. evening in 2024 leaving the Sunday for an expected WEC race.
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Wasn't the stated problem for the WEC about Sebring the logistics of hosting both series back to back? So this is the same problem but at a different track?
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* Can anyone explain what's so difficult for the sponsors and manufacturers to have two races on one weekend? Surely the generated exposure by Super Sebring is extremely hard to match by whatever other WEC event in the US - teamed with IMSA or not. |
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Second one is purely THEY can't charge twice for it. Guarantee everyone selling themselves LOVES one trip and maybe one extra day of lodging over 2 separate events. Plus yes, Super Sebring is bound to bring more than a football season who gives a sht Indy event. Even the IMSA event is going to tank at Indy, it's just too big a place for 100k attendance to look occupied. Battle on the Bricks, yeah that's the IMSA event name is in early September. Currently WEC leaves Europe in July to go to Japan the week prior and then to Bahrain Nov. They can't really tell us they're gonna go to Bahrain by way of US. Their best bet was at Sebring, IMSA should be the ones to cry. They are losing track rental for another event and RV parking to let the WEC crash their event |
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IMSA Weathertech already splits off some GTD only events. They would know by then how GTP and LMH stack up especially as Cadillac Porsche and hopefully BMW by then would cars homogulated in both. So lighten up on IMSA homog a bit just for a dual race Do GTD/LMGT3 Friday evening and night at Sebring And do Saturday evening start for LMH/LMDh/GTP plus LMP2 (and possibly LMP3) Apart from evening up for main race overall win most of the other classes don’t need levelling or double homog. Go for easiest pitstop/ yellow/SC combination set that works- main drivers and crews must have good adaptable skills as driving all sorts of sportscar and other events. What’s the point of dual classes if WEC cars never go IMSA side? |
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