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Old 30 Mar 2018, 13:39 (Ref:3811927)   #1226
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Has RLM indicated of there being any coverage for HTTT whatsoever? Their site only lists the ELMS week after which I don't care about

I assume public live timing is no-go again for some reason, and the erratic ACO social media updates are largely irrelevant, so that's the only hope of anything substantial, but doesn't look promising
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Old 30 Mar 2018, 16:22 (Ref:3811965)   #1227
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Has RLM indicated of there being any coverage for HTTT whatsoever? Their site only lists the ELMS week after which I don't care about

I assume public live timing is no-go again for some reason, and the erratic ACO social media updates are largely irrelevant, so that's the only hope of anything substantial, but doesn't look promising
Typical... looks like it's second hand youtube videos and end of session alkamelsystems timing, again
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Old 30 Mar 2018, 17:17 (Ref:3811975)   #1228
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Typical... looks like it's second hand youtube videos and end of session alkamelsystems timing, again
Well, I've just checked the WEC app on my phone, and clicking on the live timing button brings up a message which reads 'No live is available now. Come back the Friday, 6 April at 08:00.'. To me, that implies that there will be live timing on the app, so presumably the website too.

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Old 30 Mar 2018, 17:44 (Ref:3811977)   #1229
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Proton Competition driver line ups.

#77: Christian Ried, Matt Campbell, Julien Andlauer
#88: Matteo Cairoli, Khaled Al Qubaisi, Giorgio Roda
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Well, I've just checked the WEC app on my phone, and clicking on the live timing button brings up a message which reads 'No live is available now. Come back the Friday, 6 April at 08:00.'. To me, that implies that there will be live timing on the app, so presumably the website too.

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Indeed... hopefully not early april fools joke!

I just don't get why they bother branding this "event" Prologue year after year if you cannot follow any of it. The minimum I'd have is CCTV fixed angle with live timing
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Old 31 Mar 2018, 07:58 (Ref:3812065)   #1231
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I've always wondered that. It's a test session. Ok, we're massive nerds and like that, so that's why they brand it. But if even the nerds can't watch it, then all point is lost. Need Roar like coverage.
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Old 31 Mar 2018, 08:08 (Ref:3812066)   #1232
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I've always wondered that. It's a test session. Ok, we're massive nerds and like that, so that's why they brand it. But if even the nerds can't watch it, then all point is lost. Need Roar like coverage.
Correct, it's definitely a missed opportunity to further promote the series and expand their audience.
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Old 31 Mar 2018, 09:23 (Ref:3812081)   #1233
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What would it even cost to have

* Static CCTV and/or onboard stream on youtube
* Live timing sticker at the bottom of that screen and/or proper publicly-accessible alkamel timing elsewhere
* Integrated RLM audio (assuming deal was made, but hey those guys are doing literally club events nowadays as well so why wouldn't they agree)

I mean obviously you still wouldn't expect too many heads to actually turn up for what, you know, *technically* counts towards nothing, but would the the ROI really be that bad... it's handling public relations most of all. They probably could transfer some of that petty cash they gather from their paywall streaming for this, rather than it going to dinner reservations in Paris

Anyway next year there probably won't be Prologue anyway (?) when season starts in the fall, or if there is it might even be in the spring of 2020 in the middle of season rebranded as something else
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Anyway next year there probably won't be Prologue anyway (?) when season starts in the fall, or if there is it might even be in the spring of 2020 in the middle of season rebranded as something else
Never thought of this, but that's a good point.

Maybe they could run the Prologue as part of an ELMS Weekend during the summer.
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Or remove it and move Le Mans Test Day back to April like they did in 2011, so it'd be between Sebring (or whatever there is in 2020) and Spa
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https://youtu.be/e6g2QZZTTD4

A factory Porsche had a bit of an incident this week in the wet at Spa towards the end of the video, looked like Kevin Estre (not sure how to copy images across sorry)
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worth watching, some great cars but 3 of the jags from group C are real bonus
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A factory Porsche had a bit of an incident this week in the wet at Spa towards the end of the video, looked like Kevin Estre (not sure how to copy images across sorry)
New Aston sounds a bit rubbish imo.
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New Aston sounds a bit rubbish imo.
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There are now proposals in place to make WEC support F1 so more F1 drivers can challenge Fred in WEC
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New Aston sounds a bit rubbish imo.
Yep. This section of video painfully illustrates that: https://youtu.be/j0lU9TaERkk?t=1m1s
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It sounds like it's overly muffled and that ruins the grumble it has. You can hear it faintly when it enters the pits but it sounds muted out on track running.
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I think it looks great.
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I think it looks great.
Agree, really digging it. Can't for for the season.
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I think it looks great.
The outgoing model is perfection on wheels.

The new one just looks weird.
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The outgoing model is perfection on wheels.

The new one just looks weird.
Imo, I think the new one only looks better (and more aggressive), but the old one sounds better and had a better livery.
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It cannot be achieved.

The supporter base between F1 and WEC are completely different. I think the WEC fans will roar if it this come true.

F1 have too many supporting races, GP3 (F3 in 2019), F2 and Porsche Super Cup, the weekend schedule is too tight for the addition of one more supporting race.
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It cannot be achieved.



The supporter base between F1 and WEC are completely different. I think the WEC fans will roar if it this come true.



F1 have too many supporting races, GP3 (F3 in 2019), F2 and Porsche Super Cup, the weekend schedule is too tight for the addition of one more supporting race.


Recheck the date
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Obviously it's just a joke

And even if it wasn't the egos would be too big to make it happen

But nevertheless I think if someone really wanted, an one-off co-operative event between the two FIA world championships (+ add in the now-demoted-from-WC WTCR) could be organized without actually modifying the series formats or making unnecessary sacrifices for any of the involved parties... also hold it somewhere like China where they don't bring out F2/GP3/PS supports for F1

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THURSDAY
12.00-13.30	WEC	Free Practice 1		'90
16.00-17.30	WEC	Free Practice 2		'90

FRIDAY
10.00-11.00	WEC	Free Practice 3		'60
12.00-13.30	F1	Free Practice 1		'90
14.00-14.20	WEC	Qualifying - LMGTE	'20
14.30-14.50	WEC	Qualifying - LMP	'20
16.00-17.30	F1	Free Practice 2		'90

SATURDAY
10.00-10.30	WTCR	Free Practice 1		'30
11.00-11.30	WTCR	Free Practice 2		'30
12.00-13.00	F1	Free Practice 3		'60
13.15-13.45	WTCR	Qualifying 1		'30
13.50-14.35	WTCR	Qualifying 2		'45
15.00-16.00	F1	Qualifying		'60 *
16.45-17.15	WTCR	Race 1			'30 *
18.00-00.00	WEC	Race			'360

SUNDAY
12.00-12.30	WTCR	Race 2			'30
13.00-13.30	WTCR	Race 3			'30
15.10-		F1	Race			300 KM / '120
* if F1 qualifying delayed because of long red flag / weather / whatever, WTCR Race #1 automatically moves to Sunday 11.00AM

standards
WEC - 3 days on-track THU/FRI/SAT
F1 - 3 days on-track FRI/SAT/SUN
WTCR - 2 days on-track SAT/SUN

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