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View Poll Results: Which driver is going to win the VASC Driver’s Championship In 2018?
#1 Jamie Whincup RBHRT Holden 6 14.63%
#2 Scott Pye WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#5 Mark Winterbottom Tickford Ford 0 0%
#6 Cameron Waters Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#7 Andre Heimgartner NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#8 Nick Percat BJR Holden 0 0%
#9 David Reynolds Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#12 Fabian Coulthard DJRTP Ford 1 2.44%
#14 Tim Slade BJR Holden 0 0%
#15 Rick Kelly NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#17 Scott McLaughlin DJRTP Ford 22 53.66%
#18 Lee Holdsworth Team18 Holden 0 0%
#19 Jack Le Brocq Tekno Holden 0 0%
#21 Tim Blanchard TBR Holden 0 0%
#23 Michael Caruso NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#25 James Courtney WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#33 Garth Tander GRM Holden 0 0%
#34 James Golding GRM Holden 0 0%
#35 Todd Hazelwood MSR Ford 0 0%
#55 Chaz Mostert Tickford Ford 4 9.76%
#56 Richie Stanaway Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#78 Simona de Silvestro NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#97 Shane van Gisbergen RBHRT Holden 2 4.88%
#99 Anton de Pasquale Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#230 Will Davison 23RED Ford 0 0%
#888 Craig Lowndes ALR Holden 0 0%
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Old 22 Nov 2017, 21:23 (Ref:3782268)   #1251
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I think that Nissan also needs somebody else in places of De Silvestro and Caruso.
Are we talking the same Michael Caruso who is currently the leading Nissan driver in the championship?
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Old 22 Nov 2017, 22:23 (Ref:3782280)   #1252
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Are we talking the same Michael Caruso who is currently the leading Nissan driver in the championship?
Yes, exactly the same. In my opinion he didn't achieve anything special that really should give him the seat in Nissan squad. Ok, he may be a leading driver, he's had some flashes but it 's still not enough. I think Nissan needs two proven drivers instead of Caruso and Todd Kelly and a young talent instead of De Silvestro. Rick is, I believe, impossible to sack for now.
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Old 22 Nov 2017, 23:47 (Ref:3782291)   #1253
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I think Nissan needs two proven drivers
Nissan needs one proven team to succeed.

Kelly Racing ain't it.
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Pretty much on the money Mark, Tekno signed Will up for a small 400k pa salary and sadly Stephen Webb hasn't paid him this year.
For a billionaire, Steve Webb seems to be the king of We Pay Slowly....or perhaps We Never Pay
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With LDM selling off their RECs into a JV and onto prodrive, could prodrive number their cars as #3 #4 #5 and #6 next season?

The #3 is freed up from the sale to prodrive, and the #4 became available when Erebus switched to #99 for Mr Wood this year...
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Old 23 Nov 2017, 02:27 (Ref:3782330)   #1256
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With LDM selling off their RECs into a JV and onto prodrive, could prodrive number their cars as #3 #4 #5 and #6 next season?

The #3 is freed up from the sale to prodrive, and the #4 became available when Erebus switched to #99 for Mr Wood this year...
but i like 55 (and to a lesser extent 56 first well)

But i see your point

which REC is sold?
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For a billionaire, Steve Webb seems to be the king of We Pay Slowly....or perhaps We Never Pay
Not the first time I've heard this.
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Richards out of the 888 - to be replaced by.......who do you think?...you wont guess
Will Brown ?
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that would be highly unlikely in my opinion. T8 tend to look for guys with a lot experience or fame
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The all new LDM has been announced, Munday part-owner + ex Monster Prodrive Ford Falcon + Cameron McConville as GM + a Porsche for John Steffensen

23Red is launched
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Correct - it is in fact Will Brown

Also taking on the drive full time in 2019 by the sounds
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JLB to #19 is a surprise.
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So... who’s in the #7 Nissan then?

Mr Fullwood would make sense since he had a test day already, and had a second one lined up but they couldn’t get it done...
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So Where does Brighty park his REC.

LDM two REC's: Now one 23 red racing (Mundy /Angry man racing)
Insert Will Davidson ( journey man driver)

the other gone to PRA ( Frosty/waters)

Skye sanrds racing ( Mostert/Stanway)

so Brighty's REC goes to Mat Stone Racing

Jac Le Broq for Todds drive, Nissan

Simona De Silvestro get's the MSR racing as using Brighty's REC

Opens up Nissan for some one else

yep it is on for silly season
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So... who’s in the #7 Nissan then?

Mr Fullwood would make sense since he had a test day already, and had a second one lined up but they couldn’t get it done...
But is Mr Fullwood fast?

How about Shae Davies who has also done a solid job in the Nissan.
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With LDM selling off their RECs into a JV and onto prodrive, could prodrive number their cars as #3 #4 #5 and #6 next season?

The #3 is freed up from the sale to prodrive, and the #4 became available when Erebus switched to #99 for Mr Wood this year...
Nice! That would be a snazzy arrangement.

#3 Stanaway
#4 Mostert
#5 Winterbottom
#6 Waters

Very slick!

Has the #55 Mostert merchandise already been ordered however...
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SDS isn't going anywhere.

I'd say the only two unknown seats at this stage are #7 and #023 and #19.

Mr Bright's REC will probably end up being leased to, or purchased by the conglomerate behind the MSR entry.
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But is Mr Fullwood fast?
Does fast matter?

Surely it's the $$$ that decide the drivers first and foremost amongst the drives that are left
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Pretty much on the money Mark, Tekno signed Will up for a small 400k pa salary and sadly Stephen Webb hasn't paid him this year.
Ouch thats a big statement about not paying?
Is that the case, surely not and if so they should throw his arsk out of the series.
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Ouch thats a big statement about not paying?
Is that the case, surely not and if so they should throw his arsk out of the series.
Unpaid creditors is usual in motorsport, no?

Davison opens himself up to risk of ending up on the "unpaid creditor" list by being a contractor of Tekno (Will Davison Pty Ltd, the arrangement most drivers use, right?) rather than an employee, with employee protections...

Contractors always have less rights than employees, do they not, in any area of business? That's why business are so keen to use contractors rather than take on employees, no?

At least with Tekno staying solvent, Mr. Davison has some hope of recovering his dues unlike the (all too common) creditors left behind by bankrupt motorsport entities!
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Unpaid creditors is usual in motorsport, no?

Davison opens himself up to risk of ending up on the "unpaid creditor" list by being a contractor of Tekno (Will Davison Pty Ltd, the arrangement most drivers use, right?) rather than an employee, with employee protections...

Contractors always have less rights than employees, do they not, in any area of business? That's why business are so keen to use contractors rather than take on employees, no?

At least with Tekno staying solvent, Mr. Davison has some hope of recovering his dues unlike the (all too common) creditors left behind by bankrupt motorsport entities!
Of course continuing the offer your services without being paid is sadly putting your heart ahead of your brain.

But could any driver simply walk away from a drive?
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Of course continuing the offer your services without being paid is sadly putting your heart ahead of your brain.

But could any driver simply walk away from a drive?
And if you do withhold services, is that actually a formal breach of the driving agreement... often it is... so they might never get paid..
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