2015 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour: 6-8 February

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Hey V8SC, have you heard of the Streisand effect? The harder you try to kill something in full public view, the more popular it's going to be. At this rate, the 2015 12 Hours might start seriously rivalling the 1000 in terms of popularity...

No it won't as the non-hardcore-we-don't-follow-other-racing- people will likely not have even heard of this little debacle from mainstream sources, or care for rats ass in the first place. You just don't switch the polarities between country' largest and most historic motor race that's easy to follow and (admittely growing but still) relatively niche event.

Anyway, V8SC organizers have been behaving like spoiled power hungry retards in this regard, that cannot be denied.

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Bathurst 12H unfazed by absence of V8 stars

29 November 2014 - National NewsBathurst 12 Hour director James O'Brien is confident that his event is set for its biggest year yet in 2015, despite the consequences of its clash with V8 Supercars' pre-season test Read More

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• 29 November 2014 National News

Speedcafe.com's Stefan Bartholomaeus caught up with Bathurst 12 Hour director James O'Brien to talk about the event's recent growth and its plan for the future Read More

[peckstar]

That cant be right. James O Brien is saying the same things i am.

Maybe ive moved jobs from V8 superchargers to the 12 hour.

If he can publicly move on from the clash, can everyone else please.

Best 12 hour ever potentially coming. now we just need some drivers. about 180 of them

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by peckstar

That cant be right. James O Brien is saying the same things i am.

Maybe ive moved jobs from V8 superchargers to the 12 hour.

If he can publicly move on from the clash, can everyone else please.

Best 12 hour ever potentially coming. now we just need some drivers. about 180 of them

Go and take your medication, you've obviously forgotten some of the crap you've posted here in the past.

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Originally Posted by peckstar

That cant be right. James O Brien is saying the same things i am.

Maybe ive moved jobs from V8 superchargers to the 12 hour.

If he can publicly move on from the clash, can everyone else please.

Best 12 hour ever potentially coming. now we just need some drivers. about 180 of them

You give yourself way too much credit as the majority of motor racing fans can and have seen the benefits of V8SC's selfish error of judgement. When updated information is being brought to the publics attention it gets discussed, so deal with it.

[nafe!]

James O'Brian re v8supercars huge amount of free publicity that they have given the 12 hour

“It was very nice of V8 Supercars to give us the publicity.

“It’s sort of a gift that’s just been giving and giving. We’re very thankful to them for that.”


Haha absolutely love it.

Thank you James Warbo and co at V8supercars, next years running is going to be absolutely massive

[jd yort]

Originally Posted by nafe!

“It was very nice of V8 Supercars to give us the publicity.

“It’s sort of a gift that’s just been giving and giving. We’re very thankful to them for that.”

That is brilliant. Warburton has been absolutely schooled and O'Brien is letting him know it. Gold.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by nafe!

James O'Brian re v8supercars huge amount of free publicity that they have given the 12 hour

“It was very nice of V8 Supercars to give us the publicity.

“It’s sort of a gift that’s just been giving and giving. We’re very thankful to them for that.”


Haha absolutely love it.

Thank you James Warbo and co at V8supercars, next years running is going to be absolutely massive

Cant be right, all the "fans" on here reckon thats a load of BS. They have been denying that for 6 months.

[Samwhk]

No ones been denying that. What we've been saying is that it would have been better for BOTH events for there not be a clash.
You seem to be about as on to it as your mate Warburton.

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Some V8SC fanbois are really struggling to come to terms that this race is moving forward at a great rate.
It's also very amusing that a certain poster wants people to move on, but has now posted twice today regarding the same issue from 6 months ago.
Move on

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Originally Posted by Samwhk

No ones been denying that. What we've been saying is that it would have been better for BOTH events for there not be a clash.
You seem to be about as on to it as your mate Warburton.

Correct. After the date clash was announced, no-one was claiming that the B12 wasn't still going to be a great event, however it was a shame that some of our local V8SC drivers were not going to be allowed to compete which would add to the event for many local motorsport fans and it was a huge disappointment for the affected drivers also. As far as the decision to have a date clash, the free ongoing promotion for the B12 and the way O'Brien has handled the issue its O'Brien 1 Warburton 0.

[Rodger Davies]

Aside from his comments about the clash debarcle, it's really good to see someone who is concentrating on a solid grid and saying the fan base will grow naturally.

In a world where many series are opting for gimmicks and cheap rule changes in an effort to appeal to casual fans, it's great to see an organiser believing in the core sport enough to realise that the following will grow organically over time.

[Samwhk]

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Aside from his comments about the clash debarcle, it's really good to see someone who is concentrating on a solid grid and saying the fan base will grow naturally.

In a world where many series are opting for gimmicks and cheap rule changes in an effort to appeal to casual fans, it's great to see an organiser believing in the core sport enough to realise that the following will grow organically over time.

Totally agree. If you build it, they will come.

[1961]

Just watched an old tape of the first one, the 1991 Bathurst 12 Hour, I recorded off the TV back then. Much of the commentary was about how big this race was about to become. Well, they got it right. 1991 winner Peter Fitzgerald is back in 2015 after a long break from the race. Will there be any other drivers from 1991 racing?

[champcarman]

HTP to shift to Bentley!

[rich07]

Originally Posted by champcarman

HTP to shift to Bentley!

Hmmm interesting news for BES but what does that mean for the 12hr? Will they run a Mercedes sans factory support or a Bentley with factory support? Or even withdraw if they can't organise the switch over in time.

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Originally Posted by rich07

Hmmm interesting news for BES but what does that mean for the 12hr? Will they run a Mercedes sans factory support or a Bentley with factory support? Or even withdraw if they can't organise the switch over in time.

I'm a little disappointed as they were definitely one of the pre-race favorites, where who knows how well prepared they will be now, if they come at all ?

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Reload

I'm a little disappointed as they were definitely one of the pre-race favorites, where who knows how well prepared they will be now, if they come at all ?

Well hopefully they still come. Maybe they could still run the SLS by themselves before they do BES with the Bentley unless they have some type exclusivity deal where they can't run anything else other then a Bentley. Who knows eh?

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THE GOVERNING body of Australian motorsport has said that there is nothing it can do to stop the date clash between the Bathurst 12 Hour and the V8 Supercar test day next February.
CAMS CEO Eugene Arocca claims that the reason that CAMS has not stepped in regarding the clash, is that there is nothing it could do to resolve the issue.
“Legally we don’t have the power; it is as simple as that,” he told AA.
“We can offer our view and we have spoken to both categories and said, ‘Try and work it out, gents’.
“We don’t actually have the legal standing to dictate the calendar fixture by individual operators and promoters who have done separate deals.”
Despite the uproar surrounding the calendar clash, Arocca believes there is a positive to be found in the situation.
“The juxtaposition is, of course, what a wonderful position for Australian motorsport to be in, where two separate television channels are televising two separate events three hours apart from each other over a weekend,” he said.
“The glass-half-full person would say, ‘Well, this is a great competitive environment for motorsport to thrive.’”

[Samwhk]

Maybe now that Ford's dumping V8SC, they'll enter a factory XR8

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Reload

THE GOVERNING body of Australian motorsport has said that there is nothing it can do to stop the date clash between the Bathurst 12 Hour and the V8 Supercar test day next February.
CAMS CEO Eugene Arocca claims that the reason that CAMS has not stepped in regarding the clash, is that there is nothing it could do to resolve the issue.
“Legally we don’t have the power; it is as simple as that,” he told AA.
“We can offer our view and we have spoken to both categories and said, ‘Try and work it out, gents’.
“We don’t actually have the legal standing to dictate the calendar fixture by individual operators and promoters who have done separate deals.”
Despite the uproar surrounding the calendar clash, Arocca believes there is a positive to be found in the situation.
“The juxtaposition is, of course, what a wonderful position for Australian motorsport to be in, where two separate television channels are televising two separate events three hours apart from each other over a weekend,” he said.
“The glass-half-full person would say, ‘Well, this is a great competitive environment for motorsport to thrive.’”

what are you quoting?

[Reload]

Originally Posted by peckstar

what are you quoting?

I'm sure it says AA in there pretty clearly.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Reload

It's the article in full from AA facebook today.

Thank you for responding to my original question, much simpler if the source is quoted in the original post

The business known as Auto Fiction unless it suits your argument

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Reload

THE GOVERNING body of Australian motorsport has said that there is nothing it can do to stop the date clash between the Bathurst 12 Hour and the V8 Supercar test day next February.
CAMS CEO Eugene Arocca claims that the reason that CAMS has not stepped in regarding the clash, is that there is nothing it could do to resolve the issue.
“Legally we don’t have the power; it is as simple as that,” he told AA.
“We can offer our view and we have spoken to both categories and said, ‘Try and work it out, gents’.
“We don’t actually have the legal standing to dictate the calendar fixture by individual operators and promoters who have done separate deals.”
Despite the uproar surrounding the calendar clash, Arocca believes there is a positive to be found in the situation.
“The juxtaposition is, of course, what a wonderful position for Australian motorsport to be in, where two separate television channels are televising two separate events three hours apart from each other over a weekend,” he said.
“The glass-half-full person would say, ‘Well, this is a great competitive environment for motorsport to thrive.’”

Thanks Reload, very informative.