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Was the FW16 really such a dog? All of the cars suffered from the lack of electronic aids in 1994. The only car which didn't was the Benetton, which was later found to have some driver aids still installed. If the only car the FW16 couldn't beat was the B194, and the B194 was illegal, it says the FW16 wasn't that bad and that the cars that year were just difficult to drive in general.
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You are correct about the Benetton, and also it was a really good car to begin with. But yes, I think the FW-16 was terrible at least for the first two races, though it probably wasn't sorted out until at least the Spanish GP, when B-spec elements started to be introduced. We know Newey has admitted there was a defect in the front aero of the car, which was apparently discovered at Imola, and the first real steps at improving the car took place before the Friday qualifying. In fact, it is said that Senna was happy for the first time with the setup of the FW-16 after winning provisional pole. Then we have the passive suspensions issue, which was already mentioned. I think the team just didn't do enough to prepare for the passive suspension regulations, or maybe their car was just unfinished at the beginning of the season. I think Hill's performance in the first several races says a lot. It was nothing like what he showed in 1993. He was usually starting from second row even after Imola, he got lapped in the first race in Brazil, and overall his results were dismal until the Spanish GP. |
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There is some talk within F1 about changing the rules about track limits. This has been partly brought about by the Spa punctures being suspected to being caused by drivers abusing track limits and driving on the dirty stuff off track.
http://uk.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-...k-limits-abuse I think this vague rule we have at the moment is letting drivers away with too much. I think a simple solution would be that every body has to be inside the white lines and the only reason for not being there is due to another car putting somebody off track. Any other off track incident would be an automatic drive though on second offence. A bit flexability might be allowed at the first corner. P.S. this should not be needed at Monaco! |
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(Apologies, but after spending mere seconds looking I have been unable to find the This comment is made with my tongue pressed firmly into my cheek smilie!) I appreciate that we're talking about Formula One here, but hopefully common-sense should prevail and if there's any doubts, isn't that wnet the "driver steward" is supposed to be there to advise on? |
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As a suggestion Monaco any drivers who exceed the track limits should be allowed to choose their own punishment. These could include:- Instant exclusion from the event. A visit to their pit and let the team make the choice for them. They could continue and the car might decide what their punishment might be. |
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2 metres of grass minimum between the track and tarmac run off area. That would sort it instantly.
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I was watching them accelerating at full throttle on some of the "grass" on the outside of the Monza turns, it appears that the track officials have solved how to stick the stuff down and how to give it as much traction as asphalt. Nice to see to see development in F1!
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Take all the kerbs and white lines away and let the drivers work out the quickest way round the track then there are no infringements. That was easy!!
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You'd love Indycar as there are "inconsistent" decisions all over the place.
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my issues with barriers or less favorable run off areas is partially rooted in safety concerns but more selfishly i dont want to see me periods of SC or VSC while cars are removed, debris cleaned up etc.
i know more penalties is not a popular idea at the moment, but a few years ago the FIA sort of changed the system of driver penalties so i wonder if that could not be expanded to include points for 4 wheels off the track to a degree where a driver repeatedly using too much run off would result in future race suspensions. it would solve the issue of having to pursue every infraction in real time with the points being added up after the race sort of thing. |
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They solved it in Moto3 by telling them to drop back one position.
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true just seems unfair to me to pass the problem and costs to the track owners.
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