LM24 Race 2013 24 Hours of Le Mans Race Thread - Page 56

ForzaPorsche · 23 Jun 2013, 01:46 (Ref:3267703)

My apologies for a stupid question, but how did the no 2 Audi manage to lap both of the Toyotas? Were Toyota screwed by a safety car or was it just pure difference in pace?

rustyfan · 23 Jun 2013, 01:47 (Ref:3267704)

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermario21

I know they screwed that up, but that's a relatively easy fix compared to giving everyone wave-bys.

Yeah, they should've dropped the system with multiple safety cars years ago. There, problem fixed

gregtummer · 23 Jun 2013, 01:47 (Ref:3267706)

Looks like an Audi is pitting. Can't tell which one.

Edit: Audi #1

barumba · 23 Jun 2013, 01:47 (Ref:3267705)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acid09

That's what I hate about GA. You never get long-term strategy or fuel mileage races because everything is bunched together all the time.

I think it takes away a lot of the excitement that endurance racing offers.

GA = NASCAR. That's the way they do it. Create false competition by bunching up the field. If the NASCAR races run too long without a caution due to a shunt or debris (plastic bag), they will throw in a "competition caution". Also, this keeps the sponsors happy for a while. Keeps their cars in the camera lens at least for a few laps.

Articus · 23 Jun 2013, 01:47 (Ref:3267707)

Hopefully all these brake changes will put the Vettes and Ferrari's back on lead lap in GTE.

Do the Ferrari's need brake change? One of the Vette's already did its brake change! So it can only gain time.

gregtummer · 23 Jun 2013, 01:48 (Ref:3267708)

Quote:

Originally Posted by barumba

GA = NASCAR. That's the way they do it. Create false competition by bunching up the field. If the NASCAR races run too long without a caution due to a shunt or debris (plastic bag), they will throw in a "competition caution". Also, this keeps the sponsors happy for a while. Keeps their cars in the camera lens at least for a few laps.

Mystery Cautions.

Acid09 · 23 Jun 2013, 01:49 (Ref:3267709)

Looks like the rain is already stopping against..just a drizzle.

Pandamasque · 23 Jun 2013, 01:50 (Ref:3267710)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyfan

Yeah, they should've dropped the system with multiple safety cars years ago. There, problem fixed

Or simply retract SC2 off the track earlier to get the 2nd queue closer to the 1st.

broadrun96 · 23 Jun 2013, 01:50 (Ref:3267711)

Is there a maximum thickness by rule for GTE brake pads? Or is it just a maximum usable thickness that mandates a pad change during the race?

fanta4 · 23 Jun 2013, 01:50 (Ref:3267712)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acid09

I love how Americans just see it as some sort of joker that is supposed to add excitement to the race.

I guess that's why it's called a safety car in Europe...the only reason it's there is safety, not spicing up the race.

Obviously catering to the Grand Am crowd. I can assure you that the ALMS fans don't see it this way.

Mitchi_S · 23 Jun 2013, 01:53 (Ref:3267715)

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Originally Posted by SouthAussie94

I've been away for the last 5 hours, could someone please update me quickly on whats happened?

Thank you!!

#1 Audi in the pits for 40 mins
Stratos GP banged in backwards exit of Porsche
Some average spin offs by average drivers

Toyota on P2&P3 behind the #2 Audi and it's pretty much a tactical race now. We will see what's what in the next hours...

That's pretty much all. And as you can see now, some 40 minutes for repairs scheduled.

Livininthinair · 23 Jun 2013, 01:56 (Ref:3267717)

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Is there a maximum thickness by rule for GTE brake pads? Or is it just a maximum usable thickness that mandates a pad change during the race?

usable thickness of pads and integrity of rotors necessitates needing to replace 1/2 way

SouthAussie94 · 23 Jun 2013, 01:56 (Ref:3267718)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchi_S

#1 Audi in the pits for 40 mins
Stratos GP banged in backwards exit of Porsche
Some average spin offs by average drivers

Toyota on P2&P3 behind the #2 Audi and it's pretty much a tactical race now. We will see what's what in the next hours...

That's pretty much all. And as you can see now, some 40 minutes for repairs scheduled.

Thank you so much!

Acid09 · 23 Jun 2013, 01:56 (Ref:3267719)

#8 has to stop... just as the safety car will come in the next lap.. damn!

gregtummer · 23 Jun 2013, 01:57 (Ref:3267720)

If Toyota can hang on and wait to pit until after the Safety Car, they'll probably save themselves 30 seconds or so.

tux · 23 Jun 2013, 01:57 (Ref:3267721)

Inspired choice by the 8 or a hopeful gamble?

Ahh, here comes everyone else.

gregtummer · 23 Jun 2013, 01:58 (Ref:3267722)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acid09

#8 has to stop... just as the safety car will come in the next lap.. damn!

So #8 will probably be lined up near the #2 Audi at the end of the queue.

Acid09 · 23 Jun 2013, 01:58 (Ref:3267723)

Now it's pouring! Damn, #8 should have taken inters at least...

gregtummer · 23 Jun 2013, 01:59 (Ref:3267724)

Audi #2 in!

Livininthinair · 23 Jun 2013, 02:00 (Ref:3267726)

safety car will come in and track will remain yellow - everyone should catch up to the group within that lap - lots of tire changes will mix everything up

rustyfan · 23 Jun 2013, 02:00 (Ref:3267727)

How much of the track is being pounded by the rain?

tux · 23 Jun 2013, 02:01 (Ref:3267728)

So safety car stays out until it stops? Or until everyone is on wets?

Articus · 23 Jun 2013, 02:02 (Ref:3267729)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livininthinair

safety car will come in and track will remain yellow - everyone should catch up to the group within that lap - lots of tire changes will mix everything up

Thats seems what has been needed to undue the damage. Allow them to close up under yellow.

gregtummer · 23 Jun 2013, 02:03 (Ref:3267732)

Audi #3 in. Full wets.

#1 Audi in. Intermediates for them.

Breitling24 · 23 Jun 2013, 02:03 (Ref:3267733)

Dorsey Schreoder, aka Captain Obvious: "The fog can totally take away your ability to see..."

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