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Off track a bit, but welcome to ROBORACE.
Sure it will be a big hit. http://www.f1reader.com/news/formula...squs_container |
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According to this article, http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122501, refueling could return in 2017.
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If anything from the past is to be introduced,I'd much rather see active suspension return then refuelling.Or ground effect.Or H-pattern gear shifters.
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It's another, rather desperate way to spice up the ''action''.
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And, I'm afraid, Todt is talking out of his rear end about the costs of dragging all the refuelling rigs around the world. When they were in use previously, because of the ridiculous cost of the rigs themselves (which I am sure would be the same this time around), they had to be flown around between the fly-away races, adding yet another Boeing 747 freighter to the flying circus. That, Mr Todt, will cost one hell of a lot more than £50,000 for a whole year; I would guess that would cost more than that for each team, let alone 11 teams. And as they have to be transported empty, you are paying a huge amount of money for just moving a metal container of air around the world. Basically, what Todt, et al are saying is that because they have messed up the regulations so much that the only way that they can think of re-introducing competition into a Grand Prix is by artificially "spicing up the show". |
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"F1 about to score another own goal", Mark Hughes of Motorsport Magazine
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1...ther-own-goal/ |
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Everywhere you look people are making dumb decisions, but at least someone is addressing the real issues facing F1
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Are they going to give the mechanics a pay rise to reflect the increased risk in pitstops? It's stupid refuelling is still being considered
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16 Jan 2016, 15:01 (Ref:3605353) | #1411 | |
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Williams is not in favor of the reintroduction of refueling. I would agree with that. I cannot see any real advantage to its reintroduction.
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But, BJ, surely F1 is supposed to be man (i.e. a driver of any gender) and machine pitted against each other. It is not supposed a game of strategy using the combined forces of a huge computer with hundreds of technicians supporting it.
If that is the object, I am sure that there are plenty of software applications available to the public to satisfy that requirement. I know that I might be in the minority, but I would like to see the drivers put on the grid knowing that the fuel onboard and the tyres on the 4 cormers are there for the whole race, and we will let you know every lap where you in respect of the other cars and how many laps until the end of the race. I would be quite happy if the races were not always won by the fastest driver, but by the driver who managed his car best for the conditions - just like what it used to be like. |
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Putting a driver on the grid knowing that the fuel on board and the tyres on the 4 corners are there for the whole race, is the F1 that I grew up with in my teens. The attritional aspect of a race held as much fascination as seeing who was the fastest. I saw many race won by the driver who managed to keep it all together, rather than the fastest driver on the track. Unfortunately that's more or less gone, what with greater engine reliability. However, if they were to get rid of the tyre stops and just run on one set that would bring something back to the mix but they won't do it. |
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Further to the various posts about the possible return of re-fueling, according to an article from the Autosport website, is that it was discussed at the Geneva meetings last week, and that the idea has been dropped yet again. It could well have been something to do with the following culled from the Autosport article (n.b. Todt quotes Euros, whilst Symonds talks in £ Sterling):
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Gerhard Berger confirming where most of us think that F1 should go back to, driver skill!
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Nothing will change. They have endless meetings and "working group" discussions, but there will be nothing meaningful agreed and the status quo will remain.
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It has now become an exercise in protecting self interest above everything else and damn the consequences and they are blind to what is happening and think that the old days are still here. The issue they have now is the internet which makes it so much easier to discuss and criticise what is going on unlike in previous decades where universal discussion was impossible. The F1 decision makers have yet to work out that they face direct and quick reaction from whatever decisions they make instead of silence apart from a bit of editorial criticism in the media if even that happened. |
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Or just keep shifting the goal pasts and then claim it is too late to change the regulations:
"The meeting proved inconclusive, to such a degree it was indicated to Autosport a delay until 2018 - as previously suggested by Williams technical chief Pat Symonds - was on the cards." "The reason for the February 29 deadline is that from March 1 the implementation of new regulations, or changes to existing ones, require unanimous approval." The end game all along! Oh well, keep fiddling while F1 burns! http://www.f1reader.com/#/news/deadl...lations-137271 |
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Inmates and asylums spring to mind.
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It doesn't look good. Run out the clock for March deadline.
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they have apparently agreed to do away with the token system although from the article i am not clear if it is from 2017 onward (so for the 2018 season) or starting with the 2017 season.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1...m-2017-671488/ i like that (or so i say now). |
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