CCWS Off Season Thread - Page 6

indycool · 4 Feb 2008, 19:18 (Ref:2120946)

Well, I know of at least one -- the Bridgestone/Firestone guys said that on the same tires, there isn't much difference in speed between the IRL and CC cars.......as if it matters when 200 mile-an-hour race cars are running 100 miles an hour.

Kieran20 · 4 Feb 2008, 19:47 (Ref:2120968)

Quote:

Originally Posted by indycool

Well, I know of at least one -- the Bridgestone/Firestone guys said that on the same tires, there isn't much difference in speed between the IRL and CC cars.......as if it matters when 200 mile-an-hour race cars are running 100 miles an hour.

your source?

indycool · 4 Feb 2008, 19:52 (Ref:2120973)

Read the post. Some Bridgestone/Firestone guys who were there.

paul-collins · 4 Feb 2008, 19:58 (Ref:2120980)

I doubt the tire guys were talking about lap times, though - since the IRL spec car is about 650 hp and the CC spec car is 100+ higher... Probably just braking and turning stuff.

indycool · 4 Feb 2008, 20:01 (Ref:2120982)

I'm sure that's possible, paul.

madman16 · 5 Feb 2008, 03:01 (Ref:2121278)

Whether any of this is true or not atleast someone finally posted something positive about CC......Horaay

blaarg · 5 Feb 2008, 07:19 (Ref:2121340)

nice post, thanks for sharing that with us mountainstar.

Mystery · 5 Feb 2008, 08:02 (Ref:2121361)

Interesting stuff - and is it also true that IRL team owners beat fluffy bunnies over their heads with mallets?

cds_uk · 5 Feb 2008, 21:02 (Ref:2121949)

If i remeber correctly, when i and a few others mentioned Franck as a possible replacement for Seabass there was a certain amount of grumbling, what do you guys think of him now,

, we told you he was bloody good.

cptkablamo · 5 Feb 2008, 22:51 (Ref:2122021)

Whats this with the

Quote:

IRL's plan to have bumper cars in 2010 or 2011

Is it some kind of joke - I have heard about their side intrusion but nothing further...

Montagny really did come up to pace quite quickly, which was impressive - a Tracy, Montagny team (provided they remain friends) could really be something to watch in 2008...

Good also to see NHL hiring some old Rusport staff - that is a good thing and I am also intrigued about who this possible new team owner is as well...

madman16 · 6 Feb 2008, 07:29 (Ref:2122189)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainstar

Speaking of IRL, next car gets bumpers and lower speeds

I too am wondering. Is this a joke or am i missing something. Obviously they're not going away from an apen wheeler?

climb · 6 Feb 2008, 07:45 (Ref:2122199)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainstar

Kal posted this on another forum-

-Kal-
...
Speaking of IRL, next car gets bumpers and lower speeds to attract NASCAR drivers.

...

ok we know you're a CC fan, ms, but:
- a poster whose nick is "Kal" doesn't exactly seem to me an impartial voice (just add "khoven" and ..

)
- to demonstrate it, how can this bloke know the shape of the new IRL car when IRL still have to decide whether / when to design a new one?

madman16 · 6 Feb 2008, 08:14 (Ref:2122214)

Quote:

Originally Posted by climb

ok we know you're a CC fan, ms, but:
- a poster whose nick is "Kal" doesn't exactly seem to me an impartial voice (just add "khoven" and ..

)
- to demonstrate it, how can this bloke know the shape of the new IRL car when IRL still have to decide whether / when to design a new one?

fair point. i'm happy with that until i hear more

indycool · 6 Feb 2008, 13:04 (Ref:2122427)

I suppose they could be talking about this, but there's no way it changes the open-wheel nature of the car. I sure haven't heard anything like that.

http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=10489

Mystery · 6 Feb 2008, 13:34 (Ref:2122445)

Was it only me who thought that the post referring to bumpers wasn't serious??

Last2LiftOff · 6 Feb 2008, 13:44 (Ref:2122451)

No, Mystery. 14 cars on the grid (only) though, that's pretty serious. I know it's work-in-progress. Impressive form from Franck Perera, again, huh?

Mystery · 6 Feb 2008, 14:06 (Ref:2122469)

Which grid? IRL, CC or both. I don't think I've heard 14 driver/sponsor/team combinations confirmed across both altogether

Last2LiftOff · 6 Feb 2008, 14:10 (Ref:2122472)

CCWS, 14 in testing was it not? You're right though, a long way from confirmed (heart attack-serious).

Mystery · 6 Feb 2008, 14:19 (Ref:2122475)

Oh right - that 14 - fair enough.

It'll be more than 14 though but probably not much more than 18, possibly less.

NHL 2, Forsythe 2-3, Miinardi 2, Team Oz 1-2, Rocketsports 1-2, Coyne 2, PKV 2, PCM 2, Conquest 2

I make that 16-19 actually, maybe even 20 with another 3rd car somewhere. 20 would be ok if outside funding for that could be found. 16 wouldn't look great and would take Paul Tracy having only a slight moment to have us down to single figures.

mountainstar · 6 Feb 2008, 15:28 (Ref:2122516)

Quote:

Originally Posted by climb

ok we know you're a CC fan, ms, but:
- a poster whose nick is "Kal" doesn't exactly seem to me an impartial voice (just add "khoven" and ..

)
- to demonstrate it, how can this bloke know the shape of the new IRL car when IRL still have to decide whether / when to design a new one?

Maybe if you guys want to discuss it further you can open a thread in your irl forum?

mountainstar · 6 Feb 2008, 15:35 (Ref:2122519)

Looks like a Conquest announcement is coming shortly regarding 2 cars with Perera and Pagenaud. Should be a good combo.

Kieran20 · 6 Feb 2008, 16:04 (Ref:2122538)

Quote:

Originally Posted by climb

ok we know you're a CC fan, ms, but:
- a poster whose nick is "Kal" doesn't exactly seem to me an impartial voice (just add "khoven" and ..

)
- to demonstrate it, how can this bloke know the shape of the new IRL car when IRL still have to decide whether / when to design a new one?

his name is his name, it has nothing to do with anything.

like mointainstar said, go talk about it someplace else, instead of spamming the CC forum.

Mystery · 6 Feb 2008, 16:53 (Ref:2122571)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainstar

Speaking of IRL, next car gets bumpers and lower speeds to attract NASCAR drivers.

Haas' tough talk ended when he heard IRL's plan to have bumper cars in 2010 or 2011.

All the big IRL teams were doing tire testing the day prior to the ChampCar testing. IRL car speeds were 3 to 4 seconds slower, per lap!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainstar

Maybe if you guys want to discuss it further you can open a thread in your irl forum?

Or maybe the post should have been there in the first place.......

Anyway let's move on.............any sponsorship to report today?

mountainstar · 6 Feb 2008, 17:58 (Ref:2122627)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystery

Or maybe the post should have been there in the first place.......

Anyway let's move on.............any sponsorship to report today?

No I just listed that other post in it's entirety. Like I said if you want to discuss the bumper cars FURTHER than open a new thread in the irl forum. It's not that big a deal people.

cptkablamo · 6 Feb 2008, 23:14 (Ref:2122892)

So no one knows then, we can just scrub it off as rubbish then? All was asked was for clarification, nothing more...
But

Yes one confirmation from Conquest - they seem to happy with Perera...I would expect a second Frenchman to be confirmed soon at Conquest

But 14 cars at the test - not so concerned, the entire field rarely turns up to tests, both inside and outside CCWS, so all is still going comparitively well for the 2008 season.

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