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but in indy it's (give or take minor details) a spec car... you can't compare that and f1 cars, where every team makes a different demand on the tyres...
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I’ve always found something that’s supposed to be ‘the pinnacle of technology’, producing sub standard tyres for the sake of racing
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This year will be different, as they are using a universal kit but from reading the reports from Phoenix, the car's characteristics are completely different from last year and that will be a major factor regarding tyres. |
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yup. meanwhile, pirelli have already covered any variations in tyre demands that the new cars produce by having multiple compounds. they can't really change it for australia and maybe the next race without huge cost (ie flying stock out to replace the containers already en route) but they will have made conservative allowances anyway.
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I look forward to seeing that but such a spectacle might cast a very long shadow over Melbourne, especially as the sun is setting.
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Can we not have skinny tyres and whip off some downforce and give us our bloody racing back!!!! Who knows maybe more racing fans will tune in.
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No we need big tyres and less aero, that's what will make the racing better, but the powers that be seem to know something no one else does
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But then the faster every year fans take over. You can't have less grip, more sliding and closer racing combined with faster and faster every year. We have passed that point decades ago, the improvements now are in the microscopic improvement in aero which often means qualifying or clean-air laps are the only ways to get faster every season.
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Yes, and look where that has got us? Boring races or "processions".
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I'll be the last to argue we must be faster every year, I personally like the direction Indy is going with MUCH less wing and grip on ovals, it will test the driver but I've always viewed Indy and even Champcar with less team and tech and more driver. F1 to me has always been that technical achievement series, often with the designers and engineers as well known as the drivers. But I fear that time has come and gone, and F1 must adapt. Or start over with a clean sheet and reset everything by stripping bits off the car sacrificing lap time for an exercise in redesigning a faster mousetrap within heavy restricted rules. The areas and allowances not the specs, ie no wings, flaps, etc outside of X by Y, Z distance from the centerline. I'll bow out beyond that for technical definitions of where bits should be allowed.
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Can we rename this thread... "An unabridged list of what is wrong with F1"
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Yes I like the sound of that
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Hopefully by 2020 Liberty will have done something to make it more exciting, just a shame we have to wait a while
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No one seems to remember or even realise that Ferrari ,during the Schumacher ascendance ran most ,if not all the Bridgestone Tyre Testing,often on its own Track.Result hardly surprising that the Ferrari was better set up on the current Bridgestones than any other Team.The rest of the Grid had to cope with what Bridgestone gave them,with their own setting up after the fact that Ferrari was already ahead of the game!?
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As much as I will be called a terrible human for this opinion, I think some of what keeps me watching Indy on road/street courses is the required mechanical grip levels. So many of the hard or square corners requiring hard long braking and gives drivers those chances to attack and be brave. And yes, the time-limited push-2-pass with the ability to use in defense and offense helps as well. Not a fan of the DRS style, without the ability of the leading car to do the same in response, but a X timed over-boost allows drivers to use it at their discretion and if they run out being aggressive early, well he who saves gets the last laugh. |
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