South African Endurance Series - Page 6

Mike E · 15 Dec 2015, 15:20 (Ref:3597956)

The series is open to more or less anything with covered wheels. Lammers and vd Merwe finished 2nd overall in the Killarney 9 Hrs in a Ginetta G55 GT4, for example. Two unique LMP2s have run in the series so far: Pilbeam MP100 and Bailey LMP2.

Not sure about growth plans but SRO have mentioned an aspiration to run in SA, so maybe something will happen there. Maybe not.

Mike E · 16 Dec 2015, 21:38 (Ref:3598224)

Race report. Thanks, DSC!

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/1...y-9-hours.html

Deleted · 16 Dec 2015, 23:09 (Ref:3598245)

Mitsubishi Electric Porsche??!!? WTF

Mike E · 17 Dec 2015, 07:24 (Ref:3598302)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Mitsubishi Electric Porsche??!!? WTF

Mitsubishi Electric is a sponsor. Calm down.

Another write up here including Lammers interview.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/artic.../#.VnJgh-inxDt

Mike E · 17 Dec 2015, 08:03 (Ref:3598307)

PS: Greg Mills, who wrote that Daily Maverick piece and co-drove with Lammers and vd Merwe, is the man (money) behind the Pilbeam MP100. I wonder if this Ginetta appearance is significant. A G57 would make a great addition to the series...

Deleted · 17 Dec 2015, 10:55 (Ref:3598330)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike E

Mitsubishi Electric is a sponsor. Calm down.

Right

Jaguar4 · 17 Dec 2015, 11:19 (Ref:3598334)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike E

PS: Greg Mills, who wrote that Daily Maverick piece and co-drove with Lammers and vd Merwe, is the man (money) behind the Pilbeam MP100. I wonder if this Ginetta appearance is significant. A G57 would make a great addition to the series...

Will we ever see the Pilbeam again?

Mike E · 17 Dec 2015, 11:29 (Ref:3598335)

Seems unlikely. It was thoroughly spanked by the Junos and it has a very limited future in any ACO series. I'm sure it would still be eligible for this series though because anything goes (hallelujah!).

Deleted · 17 Dec 2015, 12:21 (Ref:3598343)

It would likely still be eglible in this series even in 2067 post-WW3 nuclear fallout period, but I think the real aspiration for them was Le Mans (no matter how pipe dream and slowly targeted) which is now axed away by greed. Here in Africa only, thy might as well just run vehicles cheaper to run

The Pilbeam could've been oneoff entry for the hypothetical Kyalami WEC too btw

Jaguar4 · 18 Dec 2015, 04:34 (Ref:3598536)

For some reason I really love the Pilbeam LMP2 car. Maybe it's the little chassis that could? Hope to see it back someday.

Mike E · 26 Dec 2015, 11:47 (Ref:3600250)

Some Killarney video here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BN_Ifi8rIzI&feature=share

BrentJackson · 27 Dec 2015, 05:11 (Ref:3600375)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Some Killarney video here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BN_Ifi8rIzI&feature=share

And a great video it is. It looked like that Juno SS3 was just nailed to the road, and he looked to be having a pretty good race.

Mike E · 19 Feb 2016, 07:35 (Ref:3615910)

It's great to see this series continuing.

http://www.endurance-info.com/en/mop...-series-start/

Jaguar4 · 19 Feb 2016, 13:13 (Ref:3615983)

Does anyone think GT3 race cars will start to pop up in this series?

Mike E · 19 Feb 2016, 22:46 (Ref:3616148)

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Originally Posted by Jaguar4

Does anyone think GT3 race cars will start to pop up in this series?

Maybe if Ratel gets involved. Otherwise they are probably just too expensive with the dismal value of the Rand versus £/€/$. LMP3 seems more likey to me.

"Stephane Ratel also added that a potential expansion of the Challenge to Africa was under investigation with his organisation evaluating the potential for an organisational and promotional input into existing events in South Africa."

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/1...re-agenda.html

BrentJackson · 20 Feb 2016, 05:36 (Ref:3616198)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Maybe if Ratel gets involved. Otherwise they are probably just too expensive with the dismal value of the Rand versus £/€/$. LMP3 seems more likey to me.

What does it cost for the current cars down there? I can't imagine used GT3s from Europe can be too awful in terms of cost. If the best GT cars in the series are Ferrari and Porsche one-make cars, even an older GT3 car like a BMW Z4 or Ford GT should be able to dominate the GT categories.

Out of curiosity, are Trans-Am style cars (common in South Africa through the Wesbank series) allowed in the African Endurance Series, and if so would they be capable of chasing wins?

Mike E · 20 Feb 2016, 10:05 (Ref:3616225)

Not sure about Trans Am type cars. But the 2015 series regs say this:

1.1. The Africa Endurance Series is open by invitation to all Saloons, Sports & GT and Sports Racing closed wheel cars complying with 2015 technical regulations as published by MSA, or the FIA in the case of LMP1 & LMP2 cars and GTE-Pro and GTE-Am.

So if it runs in a Motorsport South Africa series and has covered wheels it could get in. They would need to fit some working lights though...

Looking at a typical entry list it looks like they would take just about anything.

**FIRE** · 20 Feb 2016, 13:41 (Ref:3616261)

South-Africa will get a touring car series based on the MARC cars. Altough the S-A cars will have smaller engines the cars itself have proven themself in endurance racing.

Jaguar4 · 5 Apr 2016, 02:07 (Ref:3630405)

Any news on this series? I haven't seen any news lately and the website hasn't been updated either.

Mike E · 5 Apr 2016, 06:26 (Ref:3630441)

14th May – Killarney
23rd July – East London
3rd September – Zwartkops
15th October – Port Elizabeth
5th November – Kyalami 9 Hours (which will still needs to be confirmed).

http://www.motorsport.co.za/News/Dis...spx?niid=53922

Rob29 · 5 Apr 2016, 07:00 (Ref:3630443)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

14th May – Killarney
23rd July – East London
3rd September – Zwartkops
15th October – Port Elizabeth
5th November – Kyalami 9 Hours (which will still needs to be confirmed).

http://www.motorsport.co.za/News/Dis...spx?niid=53922

Thanks for that link-long wondered about ZA racing -no info for years

Mike E · 5 Apr 2016, 08:04 (Ref:3630453)

Seems to be lots of offroad stuff these days. Big presence in the Dakar. Not sure about the health of circuit racing generally.

Good news for the van der Linde family though. 2014 ADAC GT Masters champion Kelvin is back in the series this year, sharing an Audi with Christopher Haase, and younger brother Sheldon is driving in the TT Cup.

Jaguar4 · 5 Apr 2016, 13:07 (Ref:3630512)

Do you see any 2015 spec P2's or even DP's make their way into the series given the new IMSA/ACO rules next year? Or are they too expensive for the relatively young series?

Mike E · 5 Apr 2016, 16:40 (Ref:3630541)

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Originally Posted by Jaguar4

Do you see any 2015 spec P2's or even DP's make their way into the series given the new IMSA/ACO rules next year? Or are they too expensive for the relatively young series?

I really don't know but it seems unlikely to me. Even the homegrown Pilbeam and Bailey LMP2s have stopped running. Would love to be proved wrong though.

Mike E · 14 Dec 2016, 07:26 (Ref:3696033)

A new name, championship status and some exciting new cars for 2017. There will also be a GT3 cup, which I guess would tie in with SRO's plans for a big race in 2018 or 2019.

And live streaming!

http://www.endurance-info.com/en/mop...2017-calendar/

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