2018 Argentine touring car championships - Page 6

NaBUru38 · 5 Nov 2018, 14:10 (Ref:3861123)

TyC Sports didn't air the race yesterday in Uruguay, but instead showed an Argentine football match encore.

GM10 · 5 Nov 2018, 15:09 (Ref:3861135)

The race was broadcasted by Trece TV.

NaBUru38 · 5 Nov 2018, 15:13 (Ref:3861138)

El Trece is a Buenos Aires station.

El Trece Internacional is only available on Cablevisión, which I don't have.

loon · 5 Nov 2018, 16:55 (Ref:3861157)

That RAM civic lucks like their old focus with a different front end

Speed-King · 5 Nov 2018, 17:50 (Ref:3861166)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt K

And also Super TC2000 is heading towards new regulations according to which four-cylinder turbo engines will replace V8s. It is to happen in 2021. Personally, although I don't follow the series closely, I think stronger and bigger engines are part of the series' identity so shame to see them go.

Despite them being V8s their engines never were that big, anyway, as they used the Radical V8s made up from two Hayabusa motorcycle engines, coming in at just 2.7liters.

**FIRE** · 7 Nov 2018, 19:53 (Ref:3861691)

Ardusso

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Despite them being V8s their engines never were that big, anyway, as they used the Radical V8s made up from two Hayabusa motorcycle engines, coming in at just 2.7liters.

Yep

I understand reliability is an issue.
An engine like the Swindow BTCC is what they need. Enough power for FWD car and good reliability.

From Touringcartimes.com

Quote:

WTCR regular Esteban Guerrieri joined independent Honda team RAM Racing for the Super TC 2000 race in Buenos Aires last weekend and is calling for a format change to the Argentinian series.

“Super TC2000 has a standardized engine, which reduces costs, but it should introduce a ‘push to pass’ system and pit stop strategies to improve the races. I would like to see longer races, re-fueling and tyre changes. Also adding downforce to the front could help,” said Guerrieri to TouringCarTimes.

...

IMO STC2000 doesn't need push to pass and more downforce.

NaBUru38 · 9 Nov 2018, 13:00 (Ref:3861969)

Push to pass wouldn't be too bad if an IndyCar-style system is used.

Tyre changes is a bit ridiculous in a 40-minute race, but whatever.

I love the cars' aggressive bodywork, but I admit that it discourages close racing.

hondafan37 · 13 Nov 2018, 17:22 (Ref:3863081)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

This is the Honda Civic of SuperTC2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=f42Ut5koCU4

NaBUru38 · 23 Nov 2018, 17:24 (Ref:3865272)

Last weekend the TC raced at El Villicum, the new racetrack at San Juan province. The top layer of the track got destroyed, apparently for inappropriate "cooking", and will be fixed.

Another issue at the venue was that no food was allowed by spectators except mate, which prevented the traditional barbecues.

NaBUru38 · 23 Nov 2018, 17:32 (Ref:3865277)

Next weekend it's the last race of the Súper 2000. The title will be decided again between Facundo Ardusso (Renault) and Agust�*n Canapino (Chevrolet).

Facu is 23 points in front of Canapa. The points scale is 40-34-28-24-20-16 for the top six and 14-12-8-6-4-2 for the top 12, plus 2 points for the polesitter.

kobefly · 26 Nov 2018, 18:32 (Ref:3866139)

Facundo Ardusso became Super TC2000 champion for the second year in a row. A lot of uncertanties on how chhampionship will continue next year.

Matt K · 27 Nov 2018, 19:14 (Ref:3866403)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobefly

A lot of uncertanties on how chhampionship will continue next year.

What do you mean exactly? What kind of uncertainties?

kobefly · 27 Nov 2018, 21:45 (Ref:3866446)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt K

What do you mean exactly? What kind of uncertainties?

Earlier this year they were thinking about major sporting regulation changes. Now, they are not even sure of the technichal regulations that will be in place for next year.
Economic and organizational issues are hitting.

Matt K · 29 Nov 2018, 15:09 (Ref:3866853)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobefly

Earlier this year they were thinking about major sporting regulation changes. Now, they are not even sure of the technichal regulations that will be in place for next year.
Economic and organizational issues are hitting.

Shame, from my perspective this series looked like it was gong strong.

**FIRE** · 6 Dec 2018, 17:36 (Ref:3868326)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobefly

Facundo Ardusso became Super TC2000 champion for the second year in a row.

Renault

IIRC new technical rules are for 2020. I have no idea about the economic situation.

GM10 · 16 Dec 2018, 20:19 (Ref:3870709)

I love Argentinian touring car chamionships, but I really don't understand why a driver must win at least one race in order to win a championship. Pernia has won the TN C3 championship with less points than Chapur: Facundo has no races won, so no title for him.

NaBUru38 · 17 Dec 2018, 17:07 (Ref:3870903)

It's a very old tradition. It would be easier if the points scale was less flat, so wins would be rewarded properly.

NaBUru38 · 27 Dec 2018, 19:09 (Ref:3872700)

Attendance statistics: http://www.campeones.com.ar/0/nota/index.vnc?id=62168

Total attendance was 670 k, down 8% from 2017.

o- TC average 28 k, flat vs 2017.
o- Súper TC2000 averaged 12 k, down 21%.
o- Turismo Nacional averaged 5,500, up 17%.
o- Top Race averaged 3,200, down 48%.

Notable attendances:

o- TC at San Nicolás: 50 k.
o- TC at Rafaela, Paran�* and El Villicum: 40 k.
o- TC at Concepciòn del Uruguay: 35 k.
o- Sùper TC2000 at San Nicolás and 200 km Buenos Aires: 30 k.
o- Turismo Nacional at Rosario: 15 k.
o- Top Race at El Zonda: 6 k.

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