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wnut · 19 Dec 2013, 00:29 (Ref:3345730)

Thanks BJ.

Interesting glimpse at some of the rule changes for 2014 by Ted Kravitz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYJXR1TgpSg

wolfhound · 20 Dec 2013, 14:00 (Ref:3346300)

DiMontezemolo has come out against the double points for the last race because of the negative reaction from fans and the media. It apperantly was Bernie's idea (surprise surprise) and pressure the teams into it by saying the TV companies wanted the championship go down to the final race.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111924

I hope the double points rule dies a rapid death.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 20 Dec 2013, 15:14 (Ref:3346328)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

DiMontezemolo has come out against the double points for the last race because of the negative reaction from fans and the media. It apperantly was Bernie's idea (surprise surprise) and pressure the teams into it by saying the TV companies wanted the championship go down to the final race.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111924

I hope the double points rule dies a rapid death.

More like Abu Dhabi wanted it to go down to the final race, rather than having the WDC decided before their event and therefore reducing it to a post championship afterthought.

Tucky · 20 Dec 2013, 16:59 (Ref:3346367)

Although I think double points is a horrible idea, I'm with DiMontezemolo and say give it a trial this year. Nearly every time a rule change is suggested, people don't want it because we don't like change, even if we don't admit it. When qualifying was changed to a three round system people complained, but I now think it's a much better and more exciting qualifying method than before.

Richard C · 20 Dec 2013, 19:20 (Ref:3346407)

Just had an awesome idea. To make sure the championship is left undecided until the last race, we have the top three points leader plus the winner of the last race play a single elimination tournament of rock, paper, scissors on the podium at the end of the race! If rock, paper, scissors seems to be too random and you want something with skill, then do a pie or hot dog eating contest instead.

Richard

**bjohnsonsmith** · 20 Dec 2013, 20:05 (Ref:3346415)

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Originally Posted by Richard Casto

Just had an awesome idea. To make sure the championship is left undecided until the last race, we have the top three points leader plus the winner of the last race play a single elimination tournament of rock, paper, scissors on the podium at the end of the race! If rock, paper, scissors seems to be too random and you want something with skill, then do a pie or hot dog eating contest instead.

Richard

I think Vettel might find playing rock, paper, scissors pretty tricky, with that finger of his.

wnut · 20 Dec 2013, 23:38 (Ref:3346462)

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Originally Posted by Richard Casto

Just had an awesome idea. To make sure the championship is left undecided until the last race, we have the top three points leader plus the winner of the last race play a single elimination tournament of rock, paper, scissors on the podium at the end of the race! If rock, paper, scissors seems to be too random and you want something with skill, then do a pie or hot dog eating contest instead.

Richard

That's the spirit Richard!

You're an FOM board member aren't you?

321Go · 21 Dec 2013, 01:11 (Ref:3346480)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

It apperantly was Bernie's idea (surprise surprise)

Yes it was Bernie's idea. But a request was made to him by the US and Abu Dhabi promoters to find a way for the F1 drivers champion not to be decided before their race. Undoubtedly, the US and Abu Dhabi are big players (and payers) on the F1 calendar. So Bernie had to come up with something to please both promoters.

This is what BE said yesterday on the subject:

“Personally, my preference would be for the final three races to be worth double points.
“But it may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next meeting in January.
“I think it should be the final three races or nothing. The final three races would mean the championship is kept interesting for everyone – fans, press and television – right until the end.”

I'm warming to the idea of the final three races worth double points. It sounds interesting. I'm with BE on this. Final three or nothing.

wnut · 22 Dec 2013, 01:45 (Ref:3346819)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

Yes it was Bernie's idea. But a request was made to him by the US and Abu Dhabi promoters to find a way for the F1 drivers champion not to be decided before their race. Undoubtedly, the US and Abu Dhabi are big players (and payers) on the F1 calendar. So Bernie had to come up with something to please both promoters.

This is what BE said yesterday on the subject:

“Personally, my preference would be for the final three races to be worth double points.
“But it may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next meeting in January.
“I think it should be the final three races or nothing. The final three races would mean the championship is kept interesting for everyone – fans, press and television – right until the end.”

I'm warming to the idea of the final three races worth double points. It sounds interesting. I'm with BE on this. Final three or nothing.

I really think Richard is on to something here.

But then I originally stopped watching Champ cars because of the way the pit stops under yellow ruined the racing from my point of view, and look what I am watching now!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 22 Dec 2013, 01:59 (Ref:3346821)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 321Go

Yes it was Bernie's idea. But a request was made to him by the US and Abu Dhabi promoters to find a way for the F1 drivers champion not to be decided before their race. Undoubtedly, the US and Abu Dhabi are big players (and payers) on the F1 calendar. So Bernie had to come up with something to please both promoters.

This is what BE said yesterday on the subject:

“Personally, my preference would be for the final three races to be worth double points.
“But it may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next meeting in January.
“I think it should be the final three races or nothing. The final three races would mean the championship is kept interesting for everyone – fans, press and television – right until the end.”

I'm warming to the idea of the final three races worth double points. It sounds interesting. I'm with BE on this. Final three or nothing.

I can see why the US would a gree to the final three races. With their's being the third to last on the calendar, it gives them a shot at having the WDC being decided at Austin, especially if we have a season like this year where the championship leader is romping away.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 22 Dec 2013, 02:01 (Ref:3346822)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 321Go

Yes it was Bernie's idea. But a request was made to him by the US and Abu Dhabi promoters to find a way for the F1 drivers champion not to be decided before their race. Undoubtedly, the US and Abu Dhabi are big players (and payers) on the F1 calendar. So Bernie had to come up with something to please both promoters.

This is what BE said yesterday on the subject:

“Personally, my preference would be for the final three races to be worth double points.
“But it may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next meeting in January.
“I think it should be the final three races or nothing. The final three races would mean the championship is kept interesting for everyone – fans, press and television – right until the end.”

I'm warming to the idea of the final three races worth double points. It sounds interesting. I'm with BE on this. Final three or nothing.

I can see why the US would agree to the final three races. With their's being the third to last on the calendar, it gives them a shot at having the WDC being decided at Austin, especially if we have a season like this year where the championship leader is romping away with it.

**Peter Mallett** · 22 Dec 2013, 07:53 (Ref:3346847)

Not sure it will make any difference. The most successful team/driver will score the most points no matter how you dick around with the scoring. Might have made a difference in days gone by when reliability was a key factor. Seeing as this year only one driver won the final three races what good would awarding double points do?

321Go · 22 Dec 2013, 08:07 (Ref:3346849)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...ext-month.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Not sure it will make any difference. The most successful team/driver will score the most points no matter how you dick around with the scoring. Might have made a difference in days gone by when reliability was a key factor. Seeing as this year only one driver won the final three races what good would awarding double points do?

I think next years cars are a little different to days gone by. Reliability will be a key factor in 2014.

**Peter Mallett** · 22 Dec 2013, 08:15 (Ref:3346851)

Hmm, I'll believe that when I see it.

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 22 Dec 2013, 11:43 (Ref:3346892)

If there is to be bonus point races then, one near the start one in the middle and one near the end.

So without looking at where, perhaps races 3, 10, 17, so that these races can influence but not necessarily decide the championship

chillibowl · 23 Dec 2013, 14:38 (Ref:3347243)

A goal is a goal imo. You can't change its value from match to match.

But what I find particularly scary is the escalation of crazy ideas. Where do they go after they think double points isn't enough?

**Peter Mallett** · 23 Dec 2013, 18:51 (Ref:3347325)

Ooh I know. Let's give each team a joker, worth quadruple points, to play in the races where they think they'll get their best result. I just know the FIA is reading this.

Paradise City · 23 Dec 2013, 18:54 (Ref:3347326)

Texting in is next. Text in your favourite driver for that extra bit of KERS. That nightmare is here with Formula E and the FIA is probably watching those guys like a hawk.

JacobP · 24 Dec 2013, 10:14 (Ref:3347542)

Lotus has a lengthy proposal for F1 regulations (sorry of this was already posted):

**Born Racer** · 24 Dec 2013, 10:28 (Ref:3347545)

19. Teams shall not be obliged to pay their drivers, regardless of contractual obligations.

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 24 Dec 2013, 13:10 (Ref:3347586)

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Any loophole exploiting devices can only be used if they have a cool name ... Keith is not allowed

Does Adrian Newey count as a cool name?

**Bononi** · 24 Dec 2013, 19:22 (Ref:3347655)

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Originally Posted by JacobP

Lotus has a lengthy proposal for F1 regulations (sorry of this was already posted):

Actually it's worth a laugh because it's not funny at all...

Lotus must have tune up that PR guy responsible for those jokes of late...

Moneyseeker · 27 Dec 2013, 16:31 (Ref:3348166)

From one of Clive James infamous GP season reviews from the 80's, when Detroit came around and there was little or no qualifying due to the track breaking up - CJ famously said ' the grid was decided by colour of hair'...there's an idea for BE and the FIA...

REALIST · 28 Dec 2013, 11:53 (Ref:3348301)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bononi

Actually it's worth a laugh because it's not funny at all...

Lotus must have tune up that PR guy responsible for those jokes of late...

It's only not funny because some of those ideas are little more inane than some of those that have been proposed and often implemented in recent years.......

**Born Racer** · 28 Dec 2013, 16:40 (Ref:3348339)

Remember the proposal in Autosport for overtaking lanes?

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