McLaren Sportscars - Page 6

Félix · 20 Dec 2012, 02:13 (Ref:3180234)

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Originally Posted by lucky snake

During years the VRH35 powered a lot of nissan race cars and has existed in at least 5 really different versions , but like the VRH50A, the VRH35A/D/E/L/Z, the VRH34A/B and the mclaren/ricardo M838T share the same base. Is a fact not an opinion. If nissan has been able to obtain a NA 5.0 starting from the same base of a turbo 3.5 design, mclaren automotive could do it as well if find some good technical partner. (the prefix VRH is for V the v shape, R for racing and H as the 8) [/url]

So VRH is just the name of Nissan's pure race engines. Do you have proof that the Nissan turbo V8 became the McLaren engine? I'm pretty sure they've gone for a new and modern design, but hey...

Félix · 20 Dec 2012, 02:54 (Ref:3180243)

Well I found what seems to be all the info there is about the link between the 2 engines: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...kledown-page-2

Apparently McLaren looked at the VRH35 when they started designing their engine and only the bore dimensions are similar. McLaren also boast about their all new design and how light (1980s-90s VRH35 was 170kg, not light), modern (design first raced in 1989) and efficient their engine is. I'm not sure any parts would fit between the two - but I'd sure love to read more about the design process.

CTD · 20 Dec 2012, 07:03 (Ref:3180296)

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Originally Posted by Félix

Well I found what seems to be all the info there is about the link between the 2 engines: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...kledown-page-2

Apparently McLaren looked at the VRH35 when they started designing their engine and only the bore dimensions are similar. McLaren also boast about their all new design and how light (1980s-90s VRH35 was 170kg, not light), modern (design first raced in 1989) and efficient their engine is. I'm not sure any parts would fit between the two - but I'd sure love to read more about the design process.

I always thought that the McLaren engine was build by Cosworth!?

MitchZ06 · 20 Dec 2012, 07:27 (Ref:3180298)

Negative, Ricardo.

Tim the Grey · 21 Dec 2012, 16:07 (Ref:3180841)

Second Ricardo. I think they also do the transmission...

MitchZ06 · 22 Dec 2012, 04:15 (Ref:3180997)

Negative, the 7-speed SSG is made by Graziano.

The GT3s race gearbox however is made by Ricardo (based off their SuperGT unit iirc).

urdragon · 23 Dec 2012, 17:27 (Ref:3181397)

For Sale: Two 2012 McLaren MP4-12C GT3′s by Gemballa Racing

Seems that the Gemballa Racing, that team which had one of the best MP412C liveries out there, didn't live too much long, it's a pity when a cool livery is lost, we will allways have the Gulf racing livery but that fits on any racing car.

**FIRE** · 23 Dec 2012, 17:33 (Ref:3181398)

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Originally Posted by urdragon

For Sale: Two 2012 McLaren MP4-12C GT3′s by Gemballa Racing

Seems that the Gemballa Racing, that team which had one of the best MP412C liveries out there, didn't live too much long, it's a pity when a cool livery is lost, we will allways have the Gulf racing livery but that fits on any racing car.

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Additionally, Iridium Automotive AG is offering to convert the GT3 racers into road-legal Can-Am versions.

Road legal Can-Am versions. What do they mean with that?

Maelochs · 23 Dec 2012, 17:41 (Ref:3181402)

McLaren Shows MP4-12C Can-Am Edition (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/spor...on-280335.html)

Victor_RO · 23 Dec 2012, 18:23 (Ref:3181412)

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-15006.html

Hexis to BES in Pro Cup, with Stef Dusseldorp, Alexander Sims and Fred Makowiecki in the full-season McLaren. Second car expected for Spa 24h.

rich07 · 23 Dec 2012, 20:45 (Ref:3181444)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-15006.html

Hexis to BES in Pro Cup, with Stef Dusseldorp, Alexander Sims and Fred Makowiecki in the full-season McLaren. Second car expected for Spa 24h.

Oh yeah!!! Fantastic. Is Sims a McLaren factory driver? I'm sure he was but not 100%.

sukispeed · 23 Dec 2012, 21:36 (Ref:3181459)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-15006.html

Hexis to BES in Pro Cup, with Stef Dusseldorp, Alexander Sims and Fred Makowiecki in the full-season McLaren. Second car expected for Spa 24h.

The Engish version has Alvaro Parente from Portugal, Alexander Sims from England and Dutchman Stef Dusseldorp not Fred Makowiecki.

GregoryDG · 23 Dec 2012, 22:57 (Ref:3181482)

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Originally Posted by sukispeed

The Engish version has Alvaro Parente from Portugal, Alexander Sims from England and Dutchman Stef Dusseldorp not Fred Makowiecki.

I wouldn't be surprised if Makowiecki leaves Hexis. He isn't racing for them in French GT and now neither in Blancpain, so my guess is we'll see him driving for another team next year (maybe Loeb's?)

GT3.14 · 23 Dec 2012, 23:30 (Ref:3181498)

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Originally Posted by GregoryDG

I wouldn't be surprised if Makowiecki leaves Hexis. He isn't racing for them in French GT and now neither in Blancpain, so my guess is we'll see him driving for another team next year (maybe Loeb's?)

Or AMR.

GregoryDG · 23 Dec 2012, 23:41 (Ref:3181505)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

Or AMR.

Indeed

Almost forgot about Mako testing for AMR a couple of weeks ago.

Simmi · 23 Dec 2012, 23:52 (Ref:3181508)

Mako is probably the hottest property in GT racing right now.

It's just about which manufacturer can offer him the best deal.

MitchZ06 · 24 Dec 2012, 01:17 (Ref:3181525)

McLaren really needs to grab Mako, he was just unstoppable in the 12C this year once they got the reliability sorted, him doing stints in a 12C at Spa would just be amazing to watch.

sukispeed · 25 Dec 2012, 15:54 (Ref:3181850)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

McLaren really needs to grab Mako, he was just unstoppable in the 12C this year once they got the reliability sorted, him doing stints in a 12C at Spa would just be amazing to watch.

He is just about unstoppable in every things he drives; He should have been a factory driver years ago.

MitchZ06 · 31 Jan 2013, 11:41 (Ref:3196546)

I see alot of good GT drivers at the MP4-28 launch....

Pandamasque · 31 Jan 2013, 14:05 (Ref:3196582)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

I see alot of good GT drivers at the MP4-28 launch....

G.Goodwin mentolioned on MWM that, with the way things are going (BoP, waivers), he doesn't see MP4-12 GTE being developed.

Is there a chance McLaren may 'pull a Z4' and expand their market to GTE with little effort/expense?

MitchZ06 · 31 Jan 2013, 14:18 (Ref:3196587)

The GT3 car was designed as a GT2 first then let run in GT3 (there has been speculation that that is why it wasn't as fast as the other GT3s early on). So you'd expect everything about it to be allowed in should McLaren ask the ACO to take the GT3 version as a GTE.

Simmi · 31 Jan 2013, 14:35 (Ref:3196594)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

G.Goodwin mentolioned on MWM that, with the way things are going (BoP, waivers), he doesn't see MP4-12 GTE being developed.

Is there a chance McLaren may 'pull a Z4' and expand their market to GTE with little effort/expense?

I'm not sure if you are referring to last night's which I didn't hear or the week before but on that show GG said it wouldn't be getting made - not a question of development. The project is dead.

I'm not sure if there is a source kicking around (other than Hindy) anywhere but I'm not sure I buy the whole idea that it was designed as a GTE car.

Pandamasque · 31 Jan 2013, 15:19 (Ref:3196611)

I meant the previous show. He didn't say it categorically, I think he meant that IN HIS OPINION a GTE project is unlikely, as it makes little sense, considering GTE is practically turning into GT3.

Of course Graham is always welcome to clarify here

MitchZ06 · 31 Jan 2013, 15:35 (Ref:3196615)

Wouldn't mind hearing a clarification

As a McLaren fanatic I'm kinda annoyed in a way as I'd like to support McLaren in multiclass sportscar racing against the factory teams from BMW, Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche, Viper. Hexis kicking arse in GT only series' is what I look forward to but I'd absolutely love to see them in GTE.

Simmi · 31 Jan 2013, 15:53 (Ref:3196627)

Yeah I'm with you on that one. Desperately want them to return to Le Mans. Was hoping it would be sooner rather than later.

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