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Old 8 Oct 2012, 22:07 (Ref:3148511)   #126
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Agreed let's get the announcement announced and stop teasing. Would be great to get some kind of semi-works Mercedes effort back at Le Mans.
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Old 9 Oct 2012, 09:13 (Ref:3148710)   #127
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Old 9 Oct 2012, 20:59 (Ref:3149054)   #128
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Eventually the new 6.3 W12 (as seen on the new A8 with 500 NA hp) will be turboed and replace the older 6.0 W12 twin turbo. 700 hp should be easily doable for that engine.
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Old 11 Oct 2012, 11:34 (Ref:3149903)   #129
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1250kg and 500 ponies is GT3 sort of territory. No need for a turbo?
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Old 11 Oct 2012, 11:55 (Ref:3149911)   #130
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Yeah...they'll make them race with it at the weight of the road car if they used a turbo W12....this car will no doubt feature the smaller 5.0L V8 (looking towards GTE in a few years).
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Old 18 Oct 2012, 20:12 (Ref:3154015)   #131
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The maserati granturismo MC GT3, According to gt spirit, presented:

http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/10/18/m...-gt3-race-car/

Had this car been officially released or not?? I saw time ago images of it.
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Old 18 Oct 2012, 20:34 (Ref:3154029)   #132
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Maserati Gt3 is currently racing in the GT Open
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 02:52 (Ref:3154161)   #133
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The maserati granturismo MC GT3, According to gt spirit, presented:

http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/10/18/m...-gt3-race-car/

Had this car been officially released or not?? I saw time ago images of it.
I dont think its an official car either with any factory backing or development AFAIK.
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 12:17 (Ref:3154341)   #134
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I dont think its an official car either with any factory backing or development AFAIK.
I'm sure Swiss Team recieve some funding from Maserati for the Superstars project, although they are not a fully works team they are an offical team hence why Bertolini who is the official Maserati test driver drove for them last year.

Edit: The Gt3 car is developed completely in house by Swiss Team : http://www.gtopen.net/article.php?cont=362
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I'm sure Swiss Team recieve some funding from Maserati for the Superstars project, although they are not a fully works team they are an offical team hence why Bertolini who is the official Maserati test driver drove for them last year.

Edit: The Gt3 car is developed completely in house by Swiss Team : http://www.gtopen.net/article.php?cont=362
Thanks. Im guessing Maserati would rather make more money out of the Trofeo World Series and the GT4 car then make a GT3.
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Jag and Williams are teaming up together to create a GT3 car.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/10/...ms-F1-7711056/
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Old 23 Oct 2012, 16:23 (Ref:3156565)   #137
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^ That sounds like a damn good project that if it holds, will perform really well. Could Jaguar regain their former glory in racing that way?
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Old 23 Oct 2012, 20:03 (Ref:3156665)   #138
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^ That sounds like a damn good project that if it holds, will perform really well. Could Jaguar regain their former glory in racing that way?
Not in GT3 they couldn't - but it would be a nice stepping stone towards something bigger in the future.
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Old 30 Oct 2012, 12:07 (Ref:3160087)   #139
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Nissan facing to increase their motorsport involvement

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-14168.html

Sometimes i wonder if it is so hard to develop a GT3 program like BMW or Mercedes have done, with completelly higher impact over the media than current nissan GT-R GT program, instead of feeding with 30hp each year the monster the GT-R is becoming.
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I made a little research on other Thread, it may be usefull:

Official prices:

Z4 GT3:

http://www.bmw-motorsport.com/en/cars/bmw-z4-gt3.html

340,000 €


GTR GT3:

http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/news_list/...sh/120004.html

£ 270,000 Ç= 336 274 €


LP600+:

http://www.reiter-engineering.com/photo/LP600+.pdf

288.500 EUR (+ VAT)


Non official prices:


MP412C GT3

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mclaren...-ar101965.html

£310,000 = 386 092 €



R8 LMS ULTRA GT3

http://www.thesupercars.org/audi/201...-r8-lms-ultra/

$429,497.00 = 337 159 €



SLS AMG GT3

http://gt1world.com/competitors/deta...ich-motorsport
http://automovilzona.com/2012/01/29/...oche-de-serie/

Price: € 334 000 (excel VAT)



458 Italia GT3

http://gt1world.com/competitors/details/af-corse

Price: € 350 000 (excel VAT)



PORSCHE 997 GT3 R

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/4...997-GT3-R.html

304,500 Euro

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Pound to euro exchange:

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Dollar to Euro exchange:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=EUR&To=USD
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 10:57 (Ref:3167439)   #141
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This time isn't my Google translate:

BMW Z4 GT3 : Countless wins and plenty of stamina.

How can the upgrades cost like the car? This article has few errors.

The Z4 costs only grew 10K to 2013 that's cost control!
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Haha I noticed it too. 315.000€ for the Upgrade-Kit, 349.000€ for a whole new car.
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Thats a race kit. It means you get all the parts you need, but you have to build the car by your own
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I think it's fair to say that the new car price is too cheap because of price cap rather than upgrade kit is too expensive.
The business model of GT3 seems to be sale of an upgrade kit.
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I think it's fair to say that the new car price is too cheap because of price cap rather than upgrade kit is too expensive.
The business model of GT3 seems to be sale of an upgrade kit.
Yeah the price cap would bite into the profit margins so the upgrades would have to be the money spinners, no doubt helped by every man and his dog bringing out upgrades every year, its a vicious cycle.

Although I cant help but be reminded of an interview with Ron Dennis I think it was who said that they werent making any money off the GT3 car, whether he meant as a whole or just the car without the upgrades is open to interpretation. Although I could not imagine McLaren not making money out of gentlemen racers. the F1 GTR programme was supposed to make more money then the roadcars themselves.
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Thats a race kit. It means you get all the parts you need, but you have to build the car by your own
So 315K is All the car in parts, if i'm correct, choose what you need and pay what you need, am I correct? But built it yourself.

(Nobody pays 315K unless you wanted to build the whole car yourself in addition to not owning the car).
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So 315K is All the car in parts, if i'm correct, choose what you need and pay what you need, am I correct? But built it yourself.

(Nobody pays 315K unless you wanted to build the whole car yourself in addition to not owning the car).
West Coast Racing did just that a couple of years ago... there's a nice time lapse video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arFgcfYb66M
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Rumor: Audi Planning to Send Off Current TT with GT3 Model Via GTSpirit.

http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/12/07/r...ith-gt3-model/
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Seems an extravagent waste....would call that a crazy rumor.
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